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    I have one like the first two. I had one before, that worked well at first but went south on me. I shopped around and bought a second one, nearly exactly like it, and this time I could not be happier. The scale pan is low enough to be about the height of a 180g record, and results are easily repeatable. Sure beats those old Shure fulcrum scales!


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    Just won one of these with a lower weighing platform and a bigger batterie

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100g-0-005...0AAOSwX61ZCYRe
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    Quote Originally Posted by farflungstar View Post
    I'm aware of that article, however there is insufficient detail of the various arm geometries for me to place confidence in his computer model. This applies especially to the unipivot design. Interesting nonetheless.

    All of my arms follow his 'generic' geometry, and I'm not bothered about an overestimate of the VTF of 0.01 - 0.02g.

    Calibrating the electronic scales with weights used with the Mitchell balance (themselves measured using a chemical balance against weights checked by the National Physical Laboratory), I find the electronic scales generally under-read by 2 - 3% (or about 0.04g at 2g).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    Just won one of these with a lower weighing platform and a bigger batterie

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100g-0-005...0AAOSwX61ZCYRe
    Looks good - but I doubt if it is accurate to 0.005g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I'm aware of that article, however there is insufficient detail of the various arm geometries for me to place confidence in his computer model. This applies especially to the unipivot design. Interesting nonetheless.

    All of my arms follow his 'generic' geometry, and I'm not bothered about an overestimate of the VTF of 0.01 - 0.02g.

    Calibrating the electronic scales with weights used with the Mitchell balance (themselves measured using a chemical balance against weights checked by the National Physical Laboratory), I find the electronic scales generally under-read by 2 - 3% (or about 0.04g at 2g).
    Yeah I have the Mitchell weights and use them to check accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Looks good - but I doubt if it is accurate to 0.005g.
    Why would anybody want that degree of accuracy though? Cartridges of the same model each vary slightly in compliance, so tracking force recommendations are a little arbitrary.
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    I have an ancient Colton "Variscale" analogue one which is very nice and works great. I wouldn't trust a digital one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Why would anybody want that degree of accuracy though? Cartridges of the same model each vary slightly in compliance, so tracking force recommendations are a little arbitrary.
    Agreed - but the way scales are advertised, they (deliberately?) confuse 'resolution' with 'accuracy', or at least make it ambigious.

    All I require are scales that have a resolution to 0.01g, and an accuracy of +/-2% (or +/-0.04g at 2g).

    Not only do cartridges vary slightly in compliance sample-to-sample, the compliance also varies with temperature, to the effect that many cartridges operate best when the ambient temperature in the vicinity of the cartridge is ~ 23 degC.
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