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    Hi all
    I have a 5 metre USB 2 cable running from computer to my dac,
    It sounds ok,
    Would there be any errors or problems arising from the length???

    Some say it won't make any difference because it's no an audio signal but date.

    Any opinions?????

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    should be fine at 5 metres. if in doubt you can change it for a repeater cable that boosts the signal. I use one although its a 10 metre one similar to this. I didnt need 10 but it was smallest I could find and 5 was a bit tight
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    A bit tight?????

    What is repeater cable?

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    Struth
    if USB had errors would it just drop the connection. Or would it manafest itself as distorted sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrys99 View Post
    A bit tight?????

    What is repeater cable?
    yes a 5 meter would stretch but it wsnt tidy so I went bigger. 5 meter is, I think the maximum without a repeater which boosts the signal somehow. not sure how it works but it does
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrys99 View Post
    Struth
    if USB had errors would it just drop the connection. Or would it manafest itself as distorted sound.
    think its a question of power and thus signal degredation
    Regards,
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    I am using a 10m USB cable with no repeater and it works fine, bought it for peanuts on ebay, less than a fiver, the industry standard limit is 5m for USB but I've had no issues.
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    Iam not sure if the 5 metres iam using s is lowering the volume slightly.

    There's no dropouts or distortion,
    I have just ordered a USB active repeater cable,

    I always thought that data is data, If there's a promblem then it works or doesn't. Unlike rca.

    As I understand it Rca is audio stream, and usb packet data,
    Therefore sound quality over USB cannot diminish. Perhaps jitter would be a problem.
    Will see what the repeater does.

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    Not sure tbh. I thought to be better on safe side so bought a 10m repeater. in fact I bought 2 and use both on occasion. Not had any trouble with either
    Regards,
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    thanks all!

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