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    I am planning to use a Shure M55e stylus in a Shure M44-7 body.
    Does anyone know the difference between the original M44-7 stylus and the M55e?
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    If I recall, the M44-7 has a conical stylus, whilst the M55E uses an ellpitical item. I believe the M55E has a higher compliance too. I seem to recollect swapping styli between M44 and M55 bodies many years ago, so it may work OK.
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    Thanks Geoff, could be an interesting upgrade for the M44-7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Thanks Geoff, could be an interesting upgrade for the M44-7.
    You may gain some more subtlety and refinement. Tracking ability and detail retrieval should certainly improve.
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    According to vinylengine the "vital statistics" are as follows:

    M44-7

    0.7mil (18um) spherical stylus,
    Compliance: 20cu
    Channel separation: 25dB
    Channel balance: 2dB
    Output: 9.5mV
    Coil resistance: 630Ohm
    Coil inductance: 720mH
    Total mass: 6.5g


    M55E

    0.2 x 0.7mil (5um x 18um) elliptical stylus
    Compliance: 25cu
    Channel separation: 20dB
    Channel balance: 2dB
    Output: 6.2mV
    Coil resistance: 630Ohm
    Total mass: 6.7g


    Does that help?
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    Detail and tracking should be better but I presume output stays the same even though I am changing g the stylus?

    I will try this combo hopefully later in the week on a Garrard SP 25 MKiv, expecting the Shure to give the AT95e a bit of competition albeit at 3 times the price!
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    The tone arm of a Garrard SP25 is not really up to tracking a Shure fitted with an elliptical stylus. IMO you will be better off sticking with the M44-7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    The tone arm of a Garrard SP25 is not really up to tracking a Shure fitted with an elliptical stylus. IMO you will be better off sticking with the M44-7.
    Works very well with AT95e elliptical stylus so I am presuming Shure m55e should be ok? Will suck it and see.
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    When I first started with audio, I used a Shure M75 EJ2 in an SP25III for some years. It worked OK. Did me until I got a BD1 & AT-1005 II.
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