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    Hmm, interesting - planar driver headphones.
    Not tried any, but I am curious about them.

    Quite a good summary of the 3 different headphone driver technnologies here http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinio...gnetic-drivers

    Dynamic drivers are like conventional speaker cones/domes.
    Planar are like ribbon speakers.
    Electrostatics are like ... err ... electrostatic speakers!

    I've owned and enjoyed dynamics and 'stat headphones - very different beasts!! - but I've not heard planars.

    I'll be very interested in your thoughts, Grant!

    What cans have you used up till now?
    Jerry

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    Headphones: Fostex T50RP mk3, AKG 551, JBL Synchros S700, B&O H6, PSB M4U-1, B&O Form 2 & 2a and Sony XBA-H1 & SoundMagic E50 IEM headphones

    2nd system: Spotify Premium streaming / Pioneer DV-535, Audiolab MDAC, Black Cat power amp, Chario Syntar 100T speakers. Headphones: Beyerdynamic DT-150, SoundMagic E10 IEM headphones

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
    Hmm, interesting - planar driver headphones.
    Not tried any, but I am curious about them.

    Quite a good summary of the 3 different headphone driver technnologies here http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinio...gnetic-drivers

    Dynamic drivers are like conventional speaker cones/domes.
    Planar are like ribbon speakers.
    Electrostatics are like ... err ... electrostatic speakers!

    I've owned and enjoyed dynamics and 'stat headphones - very different beasts!! - but I've not heard planars.

    I'll be very interested in your thoughts, Grant!

    What cans have you used up till now?
    Must say I'm looking forward to trying them. Ive had a few sets over the years and am using AT's at moment which are very good.ath7's I think. these oppo's get a good rep across the board and are I think the only closed ones around at a sensible price Jerry. got 2 h/amps to try with them plus will try without too. supposed to come today
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    ATH7 - what the old electrets?



    Very nice, if it's those.
    Kind of half-way to electrostatics.

    This should be interesting.
    Jerry

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    Spotify Premium streaming, DAC3 NOS TDA1543. Pure Sound L10 preamp, Pass X150 power amo. Speakers: MBL 116F. Cryo Silver i/c & Western Electric 16GA spkr cables. ProJect and Nordost Magus power cables

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    oops Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7..

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Techn...ca++headphones

    they are very good
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    Ah, OK - I think I heard the vintage ATH7 electrets back in my long lost yoof and was well impressed - although beyond my budget at the time.

    Still, your more modern ATs look good, so comparisons will be interesting.

    Go on - how much did the Oppos cost you?
    Jerry

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    Headphones: Fostex T50RP mk3, AKG 551, JBL Synchros S700, B&O H6, PSB M4U-1, B&O Form 2 & 2a and Sony XBA-H1 & SoundMagic E50 IEM headphones

    2nd system: Spotify Premium streaming / Pioneer DV-535, Audiolab MDAC, Black Cat power amp, Chario Syntar 100T speakers. Headphones: Beyerdynamic DT-150, SoundMagic E10 IEM headphones

    3rd system: Portable CD player, Kinter MA-180 T amp, Klegg Symphony 102 speakers

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    Too Bloody Much is the answer......unless they impress then it'll be worth it

    could have got hifiman 4000's brand new for similar cash. they are full size open back planar. The oppo is a fair bit more though.
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    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    IMUTO TAURUS X4 BATTERY SUPPLY. - RPI2B & AUDIOPHONICS DAC running MOODE 3.6- TONBRUX BATTERY SUPPLY & CHROMECAST2 AUDIO DONGLE no1 - JBE SERIES 3 SLATEDECK & EMOTIVA XPS-1 PHONO - DENON DV2900 & HEAVILY MODDED MF X10v3. BERESFORD SWITCHBOX. - TWIN PRO MONOBLOCK AMPLIFIERS. - XIANG SHENG DAC\PRE\HEADPHONE AMP. -AUDIO TECHNICA ATH-MSR7 HEADPHONES - WIN10 JRIVER22, SPOTIFY PREMIUM- OPPO PM-3 PLANAR HEADPHONES, KINPS CABLES, SMSL M6 MINIDAC, CHROMECAST2 AUDIO DONGLE no2 POWERED BY ANKER BATTERY PSU - FULL RANGE TWIN & SINGLE TELEFUNKEN's - TANDBERG TCD310 - CARTS.. AT95 Shibata, SHURE M55E original, JVC MD1029. - RCA CABLES BY BRIAN SPKR CABLES BY MOI HAIR BY MARCO FEET BY ELECTRICBEACH - MAINS REGENERATED BY POWERINSPIRED AND FILTERED BY BELKIN PUREAV.

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    Default Planar headphones... any good?

    Arrived in one piece thankfully. Typically ive to go out shortly to babysit .

    Couple of pics, and i will report my findings once i get a listen





    Have to say they are solid and nicely built at least yet light too.

    Quick hi rez
    Last edited by struth; 12-05-2017 at 11:14.
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    Grant ....
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    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    IMUTO TAURUS X4 BATTERY SUPPLY. - RPI2B & AUDIOPHONICS DAC running MOODE 3.6- TONBRUX BATTERY SUPPLY & CHROMECAST2 AUDIO DONGLE no1 - JBE SERIES 3 SLATEDECK & EMOTIVA XPS-1 PHONO - DENON DV2900 & HEAVILY MODDED MF X10v3. BERESFORD SWITCHBOX. - TWIN PRO MONOBLOCK AMPLIFIERS. - XIANG SHENG DAC\PRE\HEADPHONE AMP. -AUDIO TECHNICA ATH-MSR7 HEADPHONES - WIN10 JRIVER22, SPOTIFY PREMIUM- OPPO PM-3 PLANAR HEADPHONES, KINPS CABLES, SMSL M6 MINIDAC, CHROMECAST2 AUDIO DONGLE no2 POWERED BY ANKER BATTERY PSU - FULL RANGE TWIN & SINGLE TELEFUNKEN's - TANDBERG TCD310 - CARTS.. AT95 Shibata, SHURE M55E original, JVC MD1029. - RCA CABLES BY BRIAN SPKR CABLES BY MOI HAIR BY MARCO FEET BY ELECTRICBEACH - MAINS REGENERATED BY POWERINSPIRED AND FILTERED BY BELKIN PUREAV.

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    well, a quick review on these. They come in at over twice the price of my Audio Technica cans I'm using so it was with some trepidation I bought these Planar cans from the esteemed makers Oppo.

    These come with a long cable for home listening, an android/ windows phone cable and an ios one and a canvas zip carry bag(I didnt get the bag as I bought mine slightly used)New Price is around 350 at moment rising to 400 depending.

    First thing you notice is the weight or lack of, and second is how well made they feel. These are Oppo's budget version of their pm1 planers that are over a grand so first thing I can say is they dont seem budget in any way. True the earcups are fake leather, but its nice stuff, and you can wear it for long periods(at least it seems that way to me). Very comfortable and my AT's are pretty good.Sound wise, they are deffo slanting toward the audiophile as the response seems pretty flat. Bass is tight but not at all overpowering. mid range is so sweet, you don't really want to take them off.So, no bass boost here and if thats your desire best looking elsewhere. Up top, the highs are overall very good, although perhaps a little more constrained than the AT's. The extreme top couple of keys on a piano sound wrong but that can be forgiven for all the rest sound so right.
    Sound stage is better than the AT's too. I had Wallflower on and I really felt Diana was licking her lips at me as she sang at and for me only while the band were back on the stage. Alas, she wasn't. ah well you cant have everything. The light guitar work on Billy Joels Your My Home is astounding too....

    VFM. hard to say as they probably are not twice as good as the AT's, but I wont be getting rid of anytime soon. Nina Simone sounds just..... real. the clapping in Sinnerman is so incredibly everywhere.

    Well, enough enthusing, as they are not perfect by any means but at the price these are hard to shift. not as sensitive and easy to drive as the AT's, although not much in it, and I will say this, they take 10/15 mins to get on song. I have yet to try them in a phone but am told they will work. I feel you will need an amp to hear them at their best.
    Last edited by struth; 12-05-2017 at 16:22.
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    Sometimes incompetence is useful. It helps you keep an open mind.
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    IMUTO TAURUS X4 BATTERY SUPPLY. - RPI2B & AUDIOPHONICS DAC running MOODE 3.6- TONBRUX BATTERY SUPPLY & CHROMECAST2 AUDIO DONGLE no1 - JBE SERIES 3 SLATEDECK & EMOTIVA XPS-1 PHONO - DENON DV2900 & HEAVILY MODDED MF X10v3. BERESFORD SWITCHBOX. - TWIN PRO MONOBLOCK AMPLIFIERS. - XIANG SHENG DAC\PRE\HEADPHONE AMP. -AUDIO TECHNICA ATH-MSR7 HEADPHONES - WIN10 JRIVER22, SPOTIFY PREMIUM- OPPO PM-3 PLANAR HEADPHONES, KINPS CABLES, SMSL M6 MINIDAC, CHROMECAST2 AUDIO DONGLE no2 POWERED BY ANKER BATTERY PSU - FULL RANGE TWIN & SINGLE TELEFUNKEN's - TANDBERG TCD310 - CARTS.. AT95 Shibata, SHURE M55E original, JVC MD1029. - RCA CABLES BY BRIAN SPKR CABLES BY MOI HAIR BY MARCO FEET BY ELECTRICBEACH - MAINS REGENERATED BY POWERINSPIRED AND FILTERED BY BELKIN PUREAV.

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    Sounds good , Grant.

    My experience with new dynamic cans is that they often need several dozen hours of running in to get to their best, some have even sounded horrid to start with but have turned out really good.
    I've no idea if that is true of planars, but I wouldn't be surprised.
    I suspect they will get even better over the coming weeks of use.
    Jerry

    Main systems:
    Spotify Premium streaming, DAC3 NOS TDA1543. Pure Sound L10 preamp, Pass X150 power amo. Speakers: MBL 116F. Cryo Silver i/c & Western Electric 16GA spkr cables. ProJect and Nordost Magus power cables

    Headphones: Fostex T50RP mk3, AKG 551, JBL Synchros S700, B&O H6, PSB M4U-1, B&O Form 2 & 2a and Sony XBA-H1 & SoundMagic E50 IEM headphones

    2nd system: Spotify Premium streaming / Pioneer DV-535, Audiolab MDAC, Black Cat power amp, Chario Syntar 100T speakers. Headphones: Beyerdynamic DT-150, SoundMagic E10 IEM headphones

    3rd system: Portable CD player, Kinter MA-180 T amp, Klegg Symphony 102 speakers

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    Thanks for the write-up Grant!

    Haven't heard any Oppo's but regularly use Hifiman HE-400i and HE-1000 planar phones. Also use Philips Fidelio X2, Denon AH-D2000 and assorted In Ears..

    Planars really gain from high quality head phone amps! Do NOT judge them with sub optimal amplification, which of course also applies to dynamics. Dynamics are generally the better choice, to my ears, if really good, powerful amplification isn't available!

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