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  1. #61
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    Alan visited today and brought his Tron for a listen. Once we'd let the cartridge (Zyx R50 Bloom) warm up Alan put on Flag by Yello, not an LP I've familiar with but it sounded rather excellent. Then onto an XX album which I am familiar with. I adopted my critic's face, concentrating on width, depth, bass, treble and all the other audiofool stuff but that didn't last even a single track, I just got sucked into the music, enthralling. Clearly this is a quite excellent phono stage. I don't know how the standard Tron would compare but the fired up one is certainly a very fine amplifier.
    Thanks Alan.

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    Now I have had a little more time today away from the workshop I have attached some documentation of the Convergence RIAA and it's accuracy seeing as it was bought into question earlier in the week.
    The attached data shows the accuracy of the Convergence (yellow line) is within the limits quoted (within 0.5dB) of the RIAA curve (blue line).






    Note: the frequency scale on the two graphs are linear and not logarithmic.

    The Convergence has been in production for 3 years and as Tron-Electric is an established manufacturer I have about 25 things that I could implement into this design to take if further if I need too, or if I am asked too. Most manufacturers do this anyway so as to keep ahead of the competition. However experience has taught me to only make changes when these are absolutely necessary so the design is not constantly changing and customers know exactly what they are getting. The Tron Seven Phono stage was in production for 5 years before it had its first update.

    A lot of work went into the design of the Convergence and it is engineered as a commercial design that can be sold in hundreds / thousands rather than just a handful. So far the Convergence seems to have been very popular and many owners, particularly those with high efficiency loudspeakers (>95dB) love the refined sound and the low noise. To put minds at rest the internal MC transformers are of excellent quality and I subsidise these in the MC version to keep the price at £1000.
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    Pics not working here, Graham... Btw, you have a PM, regarding populating your trade room

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    Pics working for me

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    not for me they aint
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    or me
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    Get yerselves an iphone

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    Pics working fine on Firefox. I have to say that it's very generous of Graham supplying all this information. It certainly makes for a more informed choice when selecting components from the many talented designers on AOS.
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    yup they are working now.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  10. #70
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    Wow, the RIAA EQ on the TRON looks a great match to the RIAA standard on the curves. I'm not a designer, so please excuse me if every audio manufacturer gets them this close. Perhaps others on this forum could share their knowledge or even their data, so that we can all see.

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