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    Default Phil Collins - not Dead yet :)

    nothing to add really
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    uuugh... Can't stand Phil Collins.
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    'Easy Lover' with Phillip Bailey. Only good tune he ever did. Worst singer ever, grates on me. Good drummer, though.
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    my sentiments exactly BlackAdder. Now that i have yr attention why do u not recommend the metal O ring idlers for the td124 ?
    (i ll allow myself to go off topic here )
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    Default Phil Collins - not Dead yet 😊

    I liked him with genesis even when Gabs left. Not had much to do with his solo stuff
    Think he played a great train robber too
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    I put his best of album on a few weeks back on tidal to see if I'd like him with age, as I never listened to him in the 80s etc. I can say sadly I didn't like him again.

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    I've always liked his stuff personally... apart from the odd exception... I vastly prefer Genesis with him at the helm! There are certain bands and musicians who it seems to be perennially "cool" to hate but which are actually very good IMHO, Collins, Dire Straits and Simply Red/Mick Hucknell being the first to spring to mind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I've always liked his stuff personally... apart from the odd exception... I vastly prefer Genesis with him at the helm! There are certain bands and musicians who it seems to be perennially "cool" to hate but which are actually very good IMHO, Collins, Dire Straits and Simply Red/Mick Hucknell being the first to spring to mind!
    Agree with you on dire straits and simply red because they had / have song writing talent to write great melodies, but Phil Collins melodies are always a bit 'dad rock', a bit grungey and kind of 'I'm an old man' and know how to rock but who doesn't have much pure song writing talent. A bit like James Blunt pretends to be a hip crooney young singer who hasn't got much talent, a bit like Ed Sheeran too. All phils songs are kind of on one level.

    Sorry again to Shahrin, but just giving my opinion. A bit of a rant, now over. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamics View Post
    Agree with you on dire straits and simply red because they had / have song writing talent to write great melodies, but Phil Collins melodies are always a bit 'dad rock', a bit grungey and kind of 'I'm an old man' and know how to rock but who doesn't have much pure song writing talent. A bit like James Blunt pretends to be a hip crooney young singer who hasn't got much talent, a bit like Ed Sheeran too. All phils songs are kind of on one level.

    Sorry again to Shahrin, but just giving my opinion. A bit of a rant, now over. Lol.
    The Collins stuff I'm very familiar with is "No jacket required" and "Hello I must be going" and I can't really fault either... Good song writing and melody are the most important things in music to me and I reckon Phil has it on these albums. IMHO Ed Sheeran is very talented but unfortunately using his skills to do "highly commercial with a twist" and make lots of money... I suppose one can't blame him. I hope he shows his true talent once he decides he doesn't need to do commercial any more! The stuff I'll never "get" is the likes of The Fall, some experimental German bands, most death metal etc etc (and I'm sure there are much better examples) where there seems no attempt to be "musical"... it's all just shouting/talking and aggression over what could be dust bins being banged together. How anyone could like this is beyond me and I certainly wouldn't call it music!
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    Loved him at the helm of Genesis ,and have most of his solo albums !
    I cant (or rather dont) relisten to a lot of his solo stuff myself either , but Duke was a fabulous album IMO.

    I think maybe his slight big headedness , later on ,didnt do him too many favours
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