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I'm Geoff.
My advice would be that a better amplifier will give a better result than simply an improved phono stage. Though hard to find, high end vintage amplifiers were based on their phono stages as that was the only real source. My Denon PMA850 and the Lentek integrated both contain superb phono stages. They were both more than £700 in the 1970's though so genuinely high end.
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Main system: Sony TTS8000; AT1010; Audio Technica Art1; The Lentek; Cambridge 851n, Yamaha NS1000.
System 2 - SBT; Technics SH-X1000 DAC; Denon PMA-850
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Indeed I recently tried the phono stage on my pioneer a8100 and it was excellent I have to say. surprised me a bit. Trouble is its got a fault after a while so needs fixing to be used that way, and Im not gonna try. not really well enough. shame but it works as a amp well too. These things were very well specced
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Originally Posted by MarginWalker
Well I will of course say (and with quite some justification) that my Arkless 640P at £225 (plus a donor unit you need to supply) is probably the best budget phono stage out there. There is a demo unit doing the rounds at the moment and you are welcome to try it, thread here http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...hono-loan-list
There are many other threads on this unit on various forums and you will find loads of reviews V's much more expensive units on PFM. Some prefer it to £1K+ units!
It easily beats all the well known £3-500 "best buy" units, as some time searching for reviews will soon confirm
Arkless Electronics-Engineered to be better. Tel. 01670 530674 (after 1pm)
Modded Thorens TD150, Audio Technica AT-1005 MkII, Technics EPC-300MC, Arkless Hybrid MC phono stage, Arkless passive pre, Arkless 50WPC Class A SS power amp, (or) Arkless modded Leak Stereo 20, Modded Kef Reference 105/3's
ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
Digital: Yamaha CDR-HD1500 (Digital Swiss army knife-CD recorder, player, hard drive, DAC and ADC in one), PC files via 24/96 sound card and SPDIF, modded Philips CD850, modded Philips CD104, modded DPA Little Bit DAC. Sennheiser HD580 cans with Arkless Headphone amp.
Cables- free interconnects that come with CD players, mains leads from B&Q, dead kettles etc, extension leads from Tesco
Erm...I'm not even sure what that means.Is that what you meant to say?
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Possibly meant perfect?.
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FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -
Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
"You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”
***SMILE, BE HAPPY***
That would make more sense.
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I'm Phil.
Sorry, not sure what was going through my mind then - i meant to say that i had always thought that passive+pre made for the perfect hi-fi set up, as Struth said. I think perhaps my best course of action is to try out a couple of the phono stage loan units offered on here to see what difference that makes. Thanks for all the input everyone.
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I presume you mean passive and power amp?
Arkless Electronics-Engineered to be better. Tel. 01670 530674 (after 1pm)
Modded Thorens TD150, Audio Technica AT-1005 MkII, Technics EPC-300MC, Arkless Hybrid MC phono stage, Arkless passive pre, Arkless 50WPC Class A SS power amp, (or) Arkless modded Leak Stereo 20, Modded Kef Reference 105/3's
ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
Digital: Yamaha CDR-HD1500 (Digital Swiss army knife-CD recorder, player, hard drive, DAC and ADC in one), PC files via 24/96 sound card and SPDIF, modded Philips CD850, modded Philips CD104, modded DPA Little Bit DAC. Sennheiser HD580 cans with Arkless Headphone amp.
Cables- free interconnects that come with CD players, mains leads from B&Q, dead kettles etc, extension leads from Tesco
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I'm Phil.
Sigh, yes that's what i meant. My brain is in neutral today, I'm afraid.
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