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    Dolby SR knocks the spots off all the other NR systems - minus 25 dB off the tape noise floor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by topoxforddoc View Post
    Dolby SR knocks the spots off all the other NR systems - minus 25 dB off the tape noise floor!
    Glad you are enjoying Dolby SR, can you describe its benefit over No Noise Reduction being used ?
    and have you by chance, tried any other types of NR systems ?

    Cheers / Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    Why do you keep spouting this [ADMIN REMOVED], in this case you have no idea who the person is or what the record playback chain is. The only reason people ever tried DBx as a N/R system was it was cheaper than Dolby A or the technically superior Dolby SR. As for helping SQ on CD playback, this is just [ADMIN REMOVED].
    Marco and other mods please note. My tolerance for people talking rubbish on forums has expired and my disgust at the safe space/snow flake, I don't want to be upset attitude of folk has now come to the fore. I'm out of here if you ever decide to stop people spouting rubbish, let me know. Please delete my profile from the server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    Marco and other mods please note. My tolerance for people talking rubbish on forums has expired and my disgust at the safe space/snow flake, I don't want to be upset attitude of folk has now come to the fore. I'm out of here if you ever decide to stop people spouting rubbish, let me know. Please delete my profile from the server.
    If you think people are spouting rubbish then either ignore it or explain without resorting to insults why it is rubbish. We don't delete profiles here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    If you think people are spouting rubbish then either ignore it or explain without resorting to insults why it is rubbish. We don't delete profiles here.
    Martin I have explained at length of many occasions why Chris is spouting nonsense in his proselytisation of both dBx and LDRs, your failure to note this is indicative of the arrogance with which this forum is moderated. No one has a right not to be offended, least of all when spouting crap on the internet. One does however have a right to express oneself, certainly in the UK, EU and the USA anyway. Censorship is ugly, but I would remind the moderators that under EU law, as at the moment still adopted by the UK, on does have the "right to be forgotten" on the web. I can't be bothered with this any longer, see you round the clubs.

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    Paul, I have seen your previous explanations and for what it is worth I agree with them but it isn't really worth getting upset about. No-one is going to change the world either way via an internet forum. I hope you reconsider your decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    Martin I have explained at length of many occasions why Chris is spouting nonsense in his proselytisation of both dBx and LDRs, your failure to note this is indicative of the arrogance with which this forum is moderated.
    First of all, Paul, no-one here has sufficient guru-like status, on ANY subject, technical or otherwise, to be appointed as the conclusive arbiter of "nonsense". Secondly, in terms of the "arrogance" remark, I thought you and I got on well and understood each other, so I've no idea what's changed that situation for the worse.

    You need to understand and accept that, on ANY forum, AoS included, ultimately you only get to say what the owner and moderators allow you to say, not what YOU think you're 'entitled' to. I'm afraid that's just how it is, and if you can't accept that fact, then forums aren't really for you.

    No one has a right not to be offended, least of all when spouting crap on the internet.
    I would refer you again to my comments about what here is conclusively deemed as "crap" and/or "nonsense". Also, consider how your 'offended' comment applies in relation to your remarks towards Chris, or indeed in the past when others here have been 'critical' of you - and have reported them for it.

    In any case, if you're not happy here any more, I'm sorry to hear that, and so I wish you all the best for the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    Martin I have explained at length of many occasions why Chris is spouting nonsense in his proselytisation of both dBx and LDRs, your failure to note this is indicative of the arrogance with which this forum is moderated. No one has a right not to be offended, least of all when spouting crap on the internet. One does however have a right to express oneself, certainly in the UK, EU and the USA anyway. Censorship is ugly, but I would remind the moderators that under EU law, as at the moment still adopted by the UK, on does have the "right to be forgotten" on the web. I can't be bothered with this any longer, see you round the clubs.
    Forums are not about a kind of gratification that what you are saying is right or wrong, and that others should advocate it because you believe or know absolutely you are right. You may well be and I hope you are, but to be honest thats not the point of forums. They are just to share experience mainly. Most people will view what you have done as arrogance, rather than the other way around, whether it is arrogant or not. I think if you present your arguments persuasively then you get people agreeing, if you do what youve done, you do the total opposite. But when people present an argument that is ludicrous to most, it will come accross in the thread anyway. To me it's a bit like the cable debate. And if it doesn't and not a lot of people could be perceived by you to know much about the topic, just put it down to that. Rather than being perceived as an aggressor. But also not a lot of people know what you are talking about on this topic, as it's specialist, so maybe if you explained for the benefit of others it could take it along better and you'd get support.

    People do have a right not to be offended especially when you admit you are causing offence by virtue of comments you say are crap. You've no idea what your offence does to someone, and no you don't have the right to offend someone on someone else's forum who sets the rules for how people engage with each other.

    To be honest if this was my forum I'd maybe allow people to engage in a bit more robust debate, because my perception is that this sometimes can be limiting of proper understanding, and I like a debate and constructive argument, but it's easy to see when people say stuff like you have, that moderators and owners of forums take the attitude of not letting people even remotely be perceived by others to cause offence or enter into constructive argument, for fear (quite reasonably) it could escalate and lead to bad feeling. I would allow constructive argument because if someone makes a point and argument that is irrefutable then if made ok, it gives people the confidence to come in and agree or not further. But it doesn't allow people the ability to get upset if their argument is shot down. Many people on forums start getting upset and aggressive when an argument made is firmly shot down, and I always think that's the issue of the person to whom their reason and argument is taken apart, not the person just for presenting a reasoned argument. but I think in your case you've crossed the line by causing offence.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    Martin I have explained at length of many occasions why Chris is spouting nonsense in his proselytisation of both dBx and LDRs, your failure to note this is indicative of the arrogance with which this forum is moderated. No one has a right not to be offended, least of all when spouting crap on the internet. One does however have a right to express oneself, certainly in the UK, EU and the USA anyway. Censorship is ugly, but I would remind the moderators that under EU law, as at the moment still adopted by the UK, on does have the "right to be forgotten" on the web. I can't be bothered with this any longer, see you round the clubs.
    I will add that I have also complained to moderators re inaccurate technical advice being regularly given by this same member. Sadly it would seem that regularly posting advice which is economical in its veracity is allowed... The problem being, IMHO, that as the person in question can sound technical enough, the only people who can see right through it are those who are self sufficient in accurate technical knowledge and have no need to ask for advice ....
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    Point being missed here. No-one objects to incorrect technical advice being corrected, it is the manner in which it is done. Personal, disparaging and insulting remarks are not desirable here, and, in any case, detract from the rebuttal as opposed to reinforcing it.
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