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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I would say the exact opposite!! Any CD player, no matter how bad, still sounds very good.... To match even the cheapest CD player would take around 1200+ (new prices) from vinyl.
    Who buys new?

    You can destroy digital for 600. Easily.

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    I'll also go as far as IMHO unless using an MC cart you will never equal digital.... just for Oliver
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    Dunno about streaming, but I've heard CD and records sound equally amazing.
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    I think if you have a decent set-up in either, both digital and analog can sound amazing. For me, both of mine are modest but I can get great sound from all sources connected, for me it's all about the mastering. The mastering is 90% of great sound, with playback gear the other 10%. Don't matter how good and/or expensive your gear is, feed it shit and shit comes out. IMO of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I'll also go as far as IMHO unless using an MC cart you will never equal digital.... just for Oliver


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon_LDT View Post
    Don't matter how good and/or expensive your gear is, feed it shit and shit comes out. IMO of course.
    Yeah. There are some crap recordings about in whatever format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Who buys new?

    You can destroy digital for 600. Easily.

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    okay I'm going to bite - what are we talking here? Second hand and dropping on bargains like a bastard? I'm guessing we are not including the cost of a proper cleaning machine? Just phono stage, turntable, arm and cart? What's you 600 set up that will easily kill anything digital?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    okay I'm going to bite - what are we talking here? Second hand and dropping on bargains like a bastard? I'm guessing we are not including the cost of a proper cleaning machine? Just phono stage, turntable, arm and cart? What's you 600 set up that will easily kill anything digital?
    Not "anything" digital, any "bad CD Player" as Jez said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Not "anything" digital, any "bad CD Player" as Jez said.
    Oh right. That's disappointing, thought you had it cracked there for a minute yes there are a lot of barely average CD players about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Oh right. That's disappointing, thought you had it cracked there for a minute yes there are a lot of barely average CD players about.
    Lol, not all digital, but I'd happily put my rig up against anything digital under 5k new.

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