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  1. #1
    Join Date: Apr 2017

    Location: Manningtree, Essex

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    I'm Tony.

    Default What to change next?

    I'm in a bit of a general quandary really..

    I like the sound of the system I have right now, but I'm conscious of it's limitations and those of my current environment (having gone from a large room in a detached house to cozy apartment living).

    Kit I currently have is:-

    • Rega Planar 3 with RB300 and Goldring 1012GX
    • Audio Analogue Puccini SE (first model)
    • Audio Analogue Paganini CD Player
    • Mordaunt Short MS400 (vintage 70's speakers with one careful owner)



    It's a lovely 'musical' system with a warm and involving character but is not at it's best in terms of detail or soundstage.

    I'm told the AA Puccini is has a lot of the characteristics of a valve sound (considering it is SS) and this is something I very much like. I already know it can deliver better resolution and imaging (as it did with my previous Triangle Zephyrs).

    I'm not really looking to invest more time and money on the turntable at this point as I've tweaked the Rega already and my vinyl collection is not going to grow (at this point).

    I suppose I'm looking for the best bang for the buck with what is next. Problem is, I keep going back and forth between amplifier and speakers? The room size and nature of apartment living means I'm not looking for big floor standers (I tend to listen at limited volume anyway). The speakers I have are lovely and I'm wondering whether I should dip a toe into the world of valve amplification (of which I know nothing) or just change the speakers to make the most of the still very capable Puccini SE?

    Questions, questions! Any input or advice as to what to do next is welcomed!

    Tony

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    Join Date: Apr 2009

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    I would suggest changing the speakers will bring the biggest improvement for your money.

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    Yes I reckon you have answered your own question, speakers are definitely the thing to look at.

    I saw you live in Maningtree which is always, I thought, a nice place. Used to take our dog for a walk over there a lot when I lived in the area.

    There are not many decent hi fi dealers in Colchester anymore I don't think. Ipswich maybe, but there is martins in Norwich but I tend to think the better ones are in 'Essex boy' Essex down south if you know what I mean.

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    Hmm. The MS400 may be old, but it wasn't a bad speaker at all. Is it still on its original crossover capacitors? It could be worth investigating, as old electrolytics can kill the sound of potentially decent speakers. It's a cheap and simple upgrade.




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    Mr. Tact!

    "when common sense, logic and plausibility are ruled out. All that remain are lies and foolishness"


    Gear: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/one scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/two hefty Japanese DD TT's/hefty Japanese BD TT/smaller Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. One CD transport/3 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. One MD deck. One tuner. Two TVC pre-amps/two valve pre-amps/solid state pre-amp/passive pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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    As Geoff says, replace old electrolytic capacitors in the crossovers. In my view the 400's cabinets are a bit small. Larger cabinets would help, this is what I found with the version that use the EMI elliptical bass unit. There was another version that use a round bass unit. Some versions have KEF T15 tweeter, others have a soft dome unit, possibly Heco/ Peerless.
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    Join Date: Apr 2017

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    These are in original spec. Elliptical bass units and original hf and super-tweeter. Will post details as I have the original docs with the speakers.


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    Could be a cheap boost to the sound of your system!
    Mr. Tact!

    "when common sense, logic and plausibility are ruled out. All that remain are lies and foolishness"


    Gear: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/one scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/two hefty Japanese DD TT's/hefty Japanese BD TT/smaller Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. One CD transport/3 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. One MD deck. One tuner. Two TVC pre-amps/two valve pre-amps/solid state pre-amp/passive pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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    Thanks all! Definitely going to look at replacing the capacitors as I'm not aware of any mods having been made. May update the speaker sockets at the same time as they are in need of it too. I remember being entranced by these speakers at their original owners around 25 years ago; would be nice to see if I can get some of that magic back.


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    A mainly digital setup with a musical amplifier and endearing 1970's speakers. A CD player that hardly ever gets used and a turntable that is good enough to remind my how enjoyable my old vinyl is. Some cables and things.

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    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    A mainly digital setup with a musical amplifier and endearing 1970's speakers. A CD player that hardly ever gets used and a turntable that is good enough to remind my how enjoyable my old vinyl is. Some cables and things.

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    Join Date: Apr 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymonoped View Post

    I have that too (and a mountain of other vintage brochures).
    Mr. Tact!

    "when common sense, logic and plausibility are ruled out. All that remain are lies and foolishness"


    Gear: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/one scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/two hefty Japanese DD TT's/hefty Japanese BD TT/smaller Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. One CD transport/3 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. One MD deck. One tuner. Two TVC pre-amps/two valve pre-amps/solid state pre-amp/passive pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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