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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD1 View Post
    Simon,
    When I feel down I do the following :-

    Make myself a large mug of camomile tea.
    Settle into my comfy listening chair, put on some cheerful music & just let the sounds wash over me until I almost fall asleep.

    Relaxing this way helps to keep my stress levels & BP down.

    Hope this helps ?

    Oliver
    sadly it doesnt with depression
    My System
    John Wood KT88 Amp.
    Paradise Phono Stage
    Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
    PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
    Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
    Sony X555ES Cd Player
    Yamaha NS1000m Speakers

  2. #202
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    Continuing with some of the other points made, which I wanted to address...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos
    Our posts crossed Simon, and what you describe is well documented in group behaviour, and now we even have the widely used expression "Groupthink".
    When challenged, most people will adhere to a ‘group norm' regardless of it validity.
    I agree with the concept of "Groupthink", and can see clear evidence of that on every forum I've been a member of. On some, however, it's worse than others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos
    Your validity and worth are not defined or determined by the views of others with their own superimposed agendas.
    That's a cracker, and *so* true, which I may even add to my signature!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos
    Regarding bullying on audio forums, and I hope the moderators will not delete this, I expressed the view on the HUG site that when I changed my AVI S2000MP pre for the ATC SCA2 pre, I could hear a difference.
    Excuse my ignorance, but what is the HUG site? Never heard of it. Got any links?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos
    The owner of the site immediately ridiculed this, and then sent me a PM saying that I had been given three infraction points for posting my statement.

    I then received several PMs from other members, and one said something like;
    "What next. detention, or lines".

    Two years later the owner of the site posted with great exclamation that he was horrified because he could now hear a difference between two well spec'd amps.

    I wrote to him asking him to apologise to me and remove my 'infraction points', but received no reply. This is disgraceful arrogant and impolite behaviour.
    I don't know whether to find such crazy behaviour more laughable than ridiculous, or vice versa!

    The bloke involved urgently needs to re-evaluate his attitude. There is no excuse for 'ridiculing' anyone, as ridiculing people is playground behaviour, and achieves nothing constructive.

    The sad thing is, on forums, there are a fair number of his ilk about!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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  3. #203
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    Marco, A.S. of the Harbeth User Group, HUG.

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    Aw gawd, HIM! Why am I not surprised...

    Regardless of his personal 'beliefs', which he's entitled to, that was disgraceful behaviour he subjected you to, which quite frankly, would put me off ever buying something from Harbeth.

    Unfortunately, scientific training seems to have spawned so may of his type, who completely twist what REAL science means, simply to cocoon themselves in a belief system that they consider protects their conclusions in audio from being called into question....

    It simply creates people who think like robots, and who like them, seemingly cannot defy their 'command program'.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  5. #205
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    Psychologically I think there is more going on.

    Think of the white coated engineer in his cocooned world turning the dials and knobs measuring 'objectively' all in front of him.
    Isn't it easy to have a view that;

    'We have everything under control here, there is nothing to worry about'.

    The scenario itself is conducive to a stance of illusory security about our position in the universe, which actually is full of random uncontrolled events, chaos and entropy. The earth has on 5 billion years before engulfment by the sun.

  6. #206
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    Too true. We are most certainly on the same page here, my friend. Your last paragraph nails it!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Aw gawd, HIM! Why am I not surprised...

    Regardless of his personal 'beliefs', which he's entitled to, that was disgraceful behaviour he subjected you to, which quite frankly, would put me off ever buying something from Harbeth.
    .
    You can't have it both ways; it's his forum, his rules. I'm sure some people feel unhappy about how they've been moderated here on AoS. AS in person is a lovely bloke, and he makes great speakers. (I'm registered on the HUG, but AFAIR have never posted there).

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    No disputing that it's his forum and his rules, Joe, but that doesn't mean I'm not entitled, on a separate forum, to disagree with what he's doing, or even be horrified by his actions, and allow it to influence my buying decisions. Remember that I'm simply reacting to what Dennis has reported he's experienced on HUG.

    There are lots of supposedly "lovely blokes" on hi-fi forums, whose online behaviour appears to indicate the complete contrary! And yes, I accept that such an accusation could equally be levelled at me

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No disputing that it's his forum, Joe, but that doesn't mean I'm not entitled, on a separate forum, to disagree with how he runs it, or even be horrified by his approach and allow it to influence my buying decisions. Remember that I'm simply reacting to what Dennis was subjected to on HUG.

    There are lots of supposedly "lovely blokes" on hi-fi forums, whose online behaviour appears to indicate the complete contrary! And yes, I accept that such an accusation could equally be levelled at me

    Marco.
    Equally, those who discuss this forum elsewhere shouldn't be castigated out of hand, because they are entitled to do so. All this inter-forum bollocks is frankly bollocks.

  10. #210
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    Not sure i see the connection. Forum rules do say you dont castigate forum or forum members off site. They were talking re someone being punished for saying he heard a difference between 2 amps.
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