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  1. #11
    Join Date: Sep 2009

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    sorry to hear that simon . don`t be disheartened . people are often falling out with each other in the hi fi world . its easter , and I am sure many of those folks who you have helped will appreciate it . one of the great audiophiles on one forum with a wonderful reputation got banned just because he talked about one brand a lot and folks thought it was schilling . it wasn`t but the damage was done .

    hopefully you can still enjoy that chord and cyrus and pmc equipment and enjoy aos
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    Join Date: Sep 2014

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    at the end of the day its just a hifi forum,in the grand scheme of your life it really doesn't matter and should not get you down,there are much more important things to cherish and focus on.
    chill
    My System/ Yamaha NS1000M speakers, Townsend Elite rock 2 turntable,,Alphason HR-100S-MCS tonearm,Ortofon Cadenza Black,Decca C4E cartridge ,Sony 700ES Amp,Sony X555ES CD Player, Nakamichi ca5 pre amp ,

  3. #13
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    It is stupidly simple really.

    If you don't like them, f*ck them, and move on.

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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    at the end of the day its just a hifi forum,in the grand scheme of your life it really doesn't matter and should not get you down,there are much more important things to cherish and focus on.
    chill
    +1 Keep ya head Simon, try not to let life get you down. Hang where there's good energy and good people - like here (most of the time )

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    and for gods sake dont buy a 2m black!
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    Continue, on doing the things that makes you feel happy. It works for me!

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    Shane Lonergan........UB1 Birth.

  7. #17
    Join Date: Mar 2017

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    I do not know the official definition of 'troll', but I get the impression it is someone who follows and persecutes another.

    Unfortunately there are people who have such a low commitment to living fully that they tend to persecute others in an attempt to boost self esteem. The net seems to have given another route for venting this sort of behaviour, and the young in particular are suffering greatly as a result.

    I don't wish to be indulgent in the light of your disclosure, but FWIW I have been persecuted all of my life by group behaviour, and it has led to my having to extensively study the psychology of it for years.

    I am a loner as a result of these experiences, and that is a hard position to be in, but I think maintaining one's own integrity is far better than to join in socially acceptable bullying as a means of getting by, but so many other people do not.

    I have also found that, as a naturally helpful person, I often become a consumable resource for some people, and with little gratitude., and they are not worth my help.

    You know that you are a valid person, and you do not need the approval of bullies to define that worth.
    There is an old Zen saying;
    "When others attack you, and you are a taught string, their knife will cut, but if you are a limp string, their knife will not cut".

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    Hi Simon, I have moved this thread to Abstract Chat where I feel it belongs, along with adding a little clarification to the thread title.

    I will comment once I read the thread.
    Regards Neil

    System 1: AMG Giro turntable, AMG 9W2 tonearm, Air Tight PC3 cartridge, Passlabs Xono phonostage, AMG Reference armcable. Accuphase DP57 CD player, Marantz SA7 SACD player, Sony HAP Z1es Digital File Player + Audioquest Jitter Bug, Veracity Mystra DAC + Dell Laptop + iFi i power + JKenny JKSPIDIF, Wireworld Starlight USB + Audioquest Jitter Bug, for computer audio, Audio Valve RKV2 headphone amp, headphones Grado GS 1000, Balanced Audio Technology VK300se integrated amplifier, Anthony Gallo Reference 3.1 speakers. Cabling: Signal - Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, Atlas Mavros, Speaker - QED Genesis Silver Spiral. Mains Cabling: Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, TCI. Mark Grant distribution blocks, Equipment tables Target Audio B series.

    System 2: Loricraft Garrard 401 turntable + SME 5 tonearm + VDH MC10 cartridge + Graham IC70 tonearm cable, Modified Technics 1200 turntable + Triplannar 7 tonearm + VDH Frog Gold cartridge + Paul Hynes SR7 PSU, SME Model 20 turntable + Graham Phantom tonearm + Ortofon MC5200 cartridge + Graham IC70 tonearm cable, Balanced Audio Technology VK10se phonostage, Moon Andromeda CD player, Esoteric P5 SACD transport and P 5 DAC, Toshiba 9500 DVD Audio player, AMR DP777 DAC + HP laptop + iFi i power + Wireworld Starlight USB - for computer audio, Kenwood 8300 tuner, Revox B760 tuner, Magnum Dynalab signal sleuth, Leak Troughline tuner + EAR Stereo decoder, Revox B77 mk 2 & Revox A77 mk3 reel to reel recorders, Balanced Audio Technology VK52se pre-amplifier, Music Reference RM200 mk1 power-amplifier, Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5 speakers. Cabling: Signal/Speaker - Atlas Mavros. Mains Cabling: Audience AU24, TCI. Mains distribution blocks Mark Grant and Russ Andrews, Equipment tables Clear Light Audio.

  9. #19
    Join Date: Nov 2008

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    Hi Simon

    Sadly your experience is not unique and often nice folks who only want to help fall foul of the resident bully boys or clique of such, the in crowd. Who knows why, only they know why they behave that way but they are the disgrace not the likes of yourself.

    My first foray into audio forums turned out to be a mistake, in ignorance I joined Zero Gain (now changed hands) and I did as you did tried to help, and wrote the odd review to find myself attacked often and viciously both by members, the mods and the site owner. Was there any help ? Nope. Did the site owner care ? Nope. So I left and with the original site owners agreement all my posts were deleted, the next owner restored them

    What was my crime ? Being a subjectivist. Frankly the local objectivist bullies, trolls and down right nasty people picked up their pitch forks and drove me off.

    Now if I had know I certainly would not have joined a majority objectivist forum but I didn't know and a few of these individuals didn't like it that I was a Christian.

    Anyway I left Zero Gain, and joined AOS and this is the main forum I post on. I am a member of a few others but this is by far the most friendly and welcoming forum. A few out there will disagree with that but they view here through a poisoned twisted set of glasses.

    As others have said drink does not help depression so don't seek solace in a glass it will only drag you down and if you feel you need it ask your Dr for help. Get out for walks, do things you enjoy and please don't let things get bad reach out and ask for help.

    I have to say I have struggled with grief as a result of my parents no longer being alive and other issues and the Mods and Marco here have been a massive help to me, as have others in the real world. AoS has been a life line and I hope if we can help you, provide you with a new audio home then let us be that help, that home.

    AoS isn't perfect and at times things get a bit heated here, but we the Mods try to keep it on Ethos and friendly. If you have any problems then as Grant says pm a Mod and have a chat and we will see what can be done.

    I am sorry for your experience elsewhere, there are folks here who understand and have been through that experience.

    I hope things get brighter for you. God Bless
    Regards Neil

    System 1: AMG Giro turntable, AMG 9W2 tonearm, Air Tight PC3 cartridge, Passlabs Xono phonostage, AMG Reference armcable. Accuphase DP57 CD player, Marantz SA7 SACD player, Sony HAP Z1es Digital File Player + Audioquest Jitter Bug, Veracity Mystra DAC + Dell Laptop + iFi i power + JKenny JKSPIDIF, Wireworld Starlight USB + Audioquest Jitter Bug, for computer audio, Audio Valve RKV2 headphone amp, headphones Grado GS 1000, Balanced Audio Technology VK300se integrated amplifier, Anthony Gallo Reference 3.1 speakers. Cabling: Signal - Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, Atlas Mavros, Speaker - QED Genesis Silver Spiral. Mains Cabling: Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, TCI. Mark Grant distribution blocks, Equipment tables Target Audio B series.

    System 2: Loricraft Garrard 401 turntable + SME 5 tonearm + VDH MC10 cartridge + Graham IC70 tonearm cable, Modified Technics 1200 turntable + Triplannar 7 tonearm + VDH Frog Gold cartridge + Paul Hynes SR7 PSU, SME Model 20 turntable + Graham Phantom tonearm + Ortofon MC5200 cartridge + Graham IC70 tonearm cable, Balanced Audio Technology VK10se phonostage, Moon Andromeda CD player, Esoteric P5 SACD transport and P 5 DAC, Toshiba 9500 DVD Audio player, AMR DP777 DAC + HP laptop + iFi i power + Wireworld Starlight USB - for computer audio, Kenwood 8300 tuner, Revox B760 tuner, Magnum Dynalab signal sleuth, Leak Troughline tuner + EAR Stereo decoder, Revox B77 mk 2 & Revox A77 mk3 reel to reel recorders, Balanced Audio Technology VK52se pre-amplifier, Music Reference RM200 mk1 power-amplifier, Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5 speakers. Cabling: Signal/Speaker - Atlas Mavros. Mains Cabling: Audience AU24, TCI. Mains distribution blocks Mark Grant and Russ Andrews, Equipment tables Clear Light Audio.

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    I really hope you enjoy this excellent forum. Everyone here that I have had the pleasure of interacting with are intelligent, informed, and very friendly people. I hope you find peace very soon.
    My stuff; Toshiba SR-370/Mission 774 /Ortofon Quintet Black, Cambridge CXC CD transport/Musical Fidelity X DAC/Musical Fidelity X10v3 tube buffer, Musical Fidelity A3, Nakamichi CA-5E pre amp, Acoustic Solutions FM/DAB tuner, Mordaunt Short Signifer, Klotz MC5000/MS audio, NVA LS5

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