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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    Yes Alex, it is persecutor and victim roles.

    The persecutors like to bully others, probably chosen for their sensitivity and self effacing nature, and I suspect that you are right about them stewing in their own toxic source.

    They almost certainly do it to boost their self esteem, they not having enough 'stick' to apply themselves to anything constructive, and so they attempt to destroy others' attempts to so do.

    At the end of the first year of my apprenticeship I came first in producing a unipivot pick up arm which rested an aluminium '1/2" hole' on a 1/8" point. Another apprentice came up to it and hit it hard the arm down on the point with a ball pane hammer. You can imagine the results.
    Ouch, that was a terrible experience for an apprentice. Jealousy and envy are common (maybe commonest?) feelings among humans.

    At the other end of the spectrum, let's not forget the disturbing propensity for humans to gang up on others. I've seen a lot of unwarranted witch hunt occur in many online communities. The crowd mentality (the soccer hooligan type, the worst type) often sniffs out a decent, well meaning individual. They then observe a nasty troll start taking the piss out of the constructive, well meaning behaviour of that nice, gentle person. Soon, the hooligans join the choir, and start harassing the poor soul. Things quickly escalate out of hand, the nasty bullies and but-sniffing miscreants start going around victim's back and reporting them to administrators.

    And as is always the case with any human organization, squeaky wheel gets oiled, before you know it the kangaroo court is in session, and the tragic outcome is that the victim then gets tarred, feathered, ridiculed and chased out of town. Sad, really sad, but I've seen that happen to more than one nice decent person.

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    you can see from the pre amp thread here that no one is immune from getting upset on these forums . normally they are very friendly places including the ones you mention . sadly there is always some who put your teeth on edge . i guess this is life and hopefully we can work through it and learn from it
    ou might slip, you might slide, you might
    Stumble and fall by the road side
    But don't you ever let nobody drag your spirit down
    Remember you're walking up to heaven

    Don't let nobody turn you around
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    Learn from everyone, that's what life is for
    And don't you let nobody drag your spirit down

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    If we think this is bad, compare it with what the young are suffering, they having used IT as an inherent part of their social lives from the start.

    There are frequent reports on media about bullying at school and postings of pictures or threats of it, and they are to inherit the mess we have made of things, have little money, massive university debts, and then try to buy a house.

    Most of these woes were depicted in the 60s/70s revolution - we all have the music saying it.

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    good point dennis , I despair how our young will get out of generation rent trap
    ou might slip, you might slide, you might
    Stumble and fall by the road side
    But don't you ever let nobody drag your spirit down
    Remember you're walking up to heaven

    Don't let nobody turn you around
    … Walk with the rich, walk with the poor
    Learn from everyone, that's what life is for
    And don't you let nobody drag your spirit down

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    About 3 or 4 trolls abused me on another forum - I lost It and lowered myself down to their level (maybe a bit lower). Think I lost a good hifi buddy In the process (he was obviously watching).

    They say "Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." but that's not so easy when you're annoyed and you've had a few drinks.

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    Dead right Grant....but when are the people going to stand up and say...That's it...no more..enough is enough...

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    The 'Divide and rule' principle which virtually ensures there is no real change, people being 'bought off' with a little reward.

    My experience is that if you try to be a 'Braveheart', you are the only one doing it, and then get persecuted by turncoates.

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    Just heard this on radio4 and thought it apt for this thread " no one can make you feel inferior without your consent"
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    At the end of the day, hifi is just boxes and wires. Some people take it all far too seriously IMO, to the point where they're offering to fight others on the all-important issue of whether cables make a difference.

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