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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Back in the day just about everyone had ceramic cartridges.
    Some ceramic cartridges actually sound quite decent. Acos and Decca spring to mind. Not the most refined sound maybe, but surprisngly transparent and lots of vitality.
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    might be some truth in that on the earier ones initially. Too long agao now lol. I know at time they sounded great to me, along with Zeppelin, The Groundhogs, Sabbath and Family that was my staple of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Some ceramic cartridges actually sound quite decent. Acos and Decca spring to mind. Not the most refined sound maybe, but surprisngly transparent and lots of vitality.
    Funnily enough, it's the vitality that had me rapt throughout Nursery Cryme just now.
    It had a similar vitality and vivid quality back in '73/'74.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Funnily enough, it's the vitality that had me rapt throughout Nursery Cryme just now.
    It had a similar vitality and vivid quality back in '73/'74.
    Ah. Well if you like that, you'll have to get a Decca London!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    The '94 CD remaster has greater bass presence than the earlier LP, but there's not much in it.

    All the Gabriel era Genesis albums sound pretty crappy, to be honest.
    I wouldn't be surprised to find that the tape machines were running at 7.5 ips, because as a band they didn't start making profit until the back end of the 1970s, maybe even the early 1980s.
    IMO all the Gabriel Genesis albums sound excellent. Nursery Cryme is the best recording of that era
    Maybe time to update your equipment, so you can hear what really happened back then.

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    This page telling of Lebor Gabála Érenn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebor_...1la_%C3%89renn
    is interesting reading in context of some Genesis Gabriel era songs like Suppers Ready, and Gabriel solo career songs
    In particular the albums Trespass, Foxtrot, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and the song Here Comes the Flood, from Peters first solo album.

    Such imagination to put these ideas into song is sadly missing today, but thankfully preserved in recordings.
    we can still enjoy. A unique time in music history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    This page telling of Lebor Gabála Érenn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebor_...1la_%C3%89renn
    is interesting reading in context of some Genesis Gabriel era songs like Suppers Ready, and Gabriel solo career songs
    In particular the albums Trespass, Foxtrot, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and the song Here Comes the Flood, from Peters first solo album.

    Such imagination to put these ideas into song is sadly missing today, but thankfully preserved in recordings.
    we can still enjoy. A unique time in music history.
    I would agree with both of your last replies.
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    Really like the CD reissues of the early Genesis albums which is why I do not have any on vinyl. One thing I was always aware of though is that I always thought that Genesis albums were very toppy and thin. I never was truly happy with any of their albums. I think though that my favourite reissue has to be Trick of the Tail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    Really like the CD reissues of the early Genesis albums which is why I do not have any on vinyl. One thing I was always aware of though is that I always thought that Genesis albums were very toppy and thin. I never was truly happy with any of their albums. I think though that my favourite reissue has to be Trick of the Tail.
    I would lay the blame of you hearing them as toppy and thin squarely on the
    potentiometer you use http://www.primaluna-usa.com/prologue-three/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    I would lay the blame of you hearing them as toppy and thin squarely on the
    potentiometer you use http://www.primaluna-usa.com/prologue-three/

    " Better not compromise, it won't be easy "

    Cheers / Chris
    I may be wrong but I'm not sure I owned this amplifier back in 1972 but throughout my entire time with Genesis, their albums have always been thin and weedy. Only now with this powerful, warm sounding EL34 amplifier have they actually started to open up.
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