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    I reckon it's very much a passing fad personally. The yoof don't seem to have any interest in sound quality and in fact often seem to want it to sound awful so it's "authentic dude" (or would that be "sick" nowadays?). I've noticed that on Radio 2 when they sometimes make a point of playing vinyl it will often be all crackly and have very obvious distortion from being played loads of times on an ancient BSR or what have you with a sapphire lump of coal at 20 grams... If perfect condition vinyl is played is played on high end gear they'd probably think it sounds just like CD and so it would hold no interest to them.

    A few will develop a genuine and lasting interest of course and this is to be welcomed but for most... nah..
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    Quote Originally Posted by petrat View Post
    Presumably the DJ's 12 inch 'dance' single never went away? Maybe, more young people are already vinyl-aware through clubbing.
    'Clubbing' was over years ago now. You're living in the past, Peter . Kids today don't even know the word for 'Turntable'. 'Spinny things' is one way I have heard them described.
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    Marco i'm a little confused.... are you saying life exists north of the Watford Gap??
    Mate, the last thing my Mrs needs is another pair of fooking shoes!

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol - love it!

    However, I'd suggest that four in North London alone isn't too bad! Also, you may need to broaden your horizons a little and venture further north, as the trust me, the scene is rather different up there, and I have my reasons for that.....



    No, in that area I don't think it will, simply because the buying habits of the majority of their customer base lie too much in the mainstream, therefore in terms of sustained supermarket sales of vinyl, I see no real future in it.



    Lol - the country's buying habits don't revolve just around London, you know!

    Near me, the Chester and Shrewsbury branches have shelves full of the stuff... I haven't looked elsewhere, as I prefer giving my business to the smaller shops.

    I think you need to get out more and see what's happening around the rest of the country - take your wife for a nice weekend trip away, and leave her to browse the shoe shops while you enjoy finding evidence of what I've been saying



    See what happens when you apply a little more thought...?



    In my experience, a lot of the older guys who've been in the business for years are a bit jaundiced and 'burnt out' with the whole thing, and also out of touch with the scene in a wider context, and so fail to see the bigger picture. Often they don't stock the right kind of music (or even know what that is) in order to attract youngsters in the first place!

    If the shop is full of Steely Dan and The Eagles, then it stands to reason that's only going to attract a certain type of customer. Not saying your guy is like that, but a lot of them are, and simply too stuck in the past. You need to major in the likes of indie, R&B and dance music.



    It's not so much happening with teens, IME, but more in the 20-35 year old age group, and of course above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I've noticed that on Radio 2
    "lack of passion is fatal"


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    Quote Originally Posted by petrat View Post
    Presumably the DJ's 12 inch 'dance' single never went away? Maybe, more young people are already vinyl-aware through clubbing.
    i feel old....
    "lack of passion is fatal"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    'Clubbing' was over years ago now. You're living in the past, Peter .
    I like living in the past, Martin! In my mind, it was a nicer and happier place. Anyway, I'm a jazz-rat, so it's OK ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by petrat View Post
    I like living in the past, Martin! In my mind, it was a nicer and happier place. Anyway, I'm a jazz-rat, so it's OK ...
    Oh me too. Old music, old telly, old books, old ways of doing things. I feel sorry for the youngsters, especially the state of the music today. We might have thought music went downhill in the 1980s but compared to now it was still the age of genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTLOWER View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I've noticed that on Radio 2

    It's the only station worth listening to and I recommend it highly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I've noticed that on Radio 2

    It's the only station worth listening to and I recommend it highly.



    Not at night since the mass sacking , now all they play are repeats and pre recorded playlists
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