Why vinyl took the nose dive in the late 1980s - early 1990?

[Arkless Electronics]

Absolutely right Andrew. Steam railways anyone?

Good example actually Steam trains were pretty advanced by the time they were phased out and could reliably do London to Edinburgh at high speed... they could also be maintained to last decades! Now then, must put some more coal in the Pentium 4 I'm typing this on

[Jimbo]

Ah yes, affectionately known as iZombies!

I'm with you all they way there, and it boils my piss in a major way. Quite simply, becoming a slave to technological gadgetry does not represent progress, and it's killing many aspects of our human development, as evidenced in so many different ways today, it's frightening...

Thank goodness both Del and I are largely divorced from 'normal life', as lived by most these days, and so don't need to be 'connected' 24/7. I mean, we're so weird that we can go away for 2 weeks holiday, and somehow 'survive' without any mobile phones, tablets, iPads or Kindles - and get this - we sit and TALK TO EACH OTHER, too!!

Yes, I know, a psychiatrist would have a field day!

Marco.

Liberating I would say, disconnected from the techno gadgets!

[Olddiverman]

I knew when I wrote it that it was a bad example. I LOVE steam trains. I'm 70 and, as a child, travelled on steam trains and became a trainspotter. Wonderful days. BUT. Can steam power compete in 2017, with electric, diesel, nuclear, solar and any others I don't know about? No. Sad but true.

[paulf-2007]

Hi Clive,



You can certainly overcome pops! Simply clean records thoroughly through an RCM, one of which should be owned by any serious vinyl and T/T owner.





Marco.

the majority of the public are not sad cases....oops sorry serious vinyl and tt owners and have never heard of an rcm. Remember those old photos of young people sitting on the floor with a Dansette and records strewn over the nylon carpet. Is it any wonder folk embraced cd.

[Marco]

Exactly. And pretty soon CD's were portable in discmen, car radios etc. and still sounded great. No wonder they took over from records.

And yet the LP's nemesis is now considered as 'obsolete', as far as what's used in cars, as everything moves to digital-media receivers, fed from iPhones, whilst sales of records go from strength to strength!

How'd have thunk it, eh?

Oh, the irony........

Marco.

[Marco]

the majority of the public are not sad cases....oops sorry serious vinyl and tt owners and have never heard of an rcm. Remember those old photos of young people sitting on the floor with a Dansette and records strewn over the nylon carpet. Is it any wonder folk embraced cd.

Indeed, but it doesn't mean that it *has* to be that way! That's the point. Plus, there's nothing "sad" about striving for the best or getting the most out of whatever it is you own. If you think that, then you shouldn't be posting on an audio forum, specifically aimed at enthusiasts...

Marco.

[RMutt]

And yet the LP's nemesis is now considered as 'obsolete', as far as what's used in cars, as everything moves to digital-media receivers, fed from iPhones, whilst sales of records go from strength to strength!

How'd have thunk it, eh?

Oh, the irony........

Marco.

Of course. magiccarpetride was interested in views as to why vinyl sales declined. It's the same reason CD sales will decline. Something more convenient for the 'normal' listener comes along.

[Marco]

No problem, but I'd say more like 'average', than normal. That word fits the context better

Thus: "More convenient for the average listener". I don't buy the notion that there is anything abnormal about being discerning.

Marco.

[Macca]

Of course. magiccarpetride was interested in views as to why vinyl sales declined. It's the same reason CD sales will decline. Something more convenient for the 'normal' listener comes along.

Agree. Not enough of us to make anything more than a peripheral impact on a mass market commodity. For every enthusiast with a serious set up there are a million people who buy the same music and listen to it on at best from a phone through a twenty quid Bluetooth speaker and are fine with that.

[Marco]

Yes, probably the same folk who are satisfied with some 'chicken ding', for their dinner, washed down with a bottle of £5 plonk from Bargain Booze... Thank fuck it doesn't have to be that way either!

Marco.