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Thread: Clash of the titans, Alphason hr100 mcs vs Mission 774.

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    774 for me all day long
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    Well, im going to be a bit controversial here.....

    I dont feel this has been the "best case comparison" I was hoping for.

    I dont blame Jamie, he quite clearly loves the Alphason, as he should but that Mission needed rewiring before a comparison took place. Cartridge compatibility could've also played a part here too but im not so sure.

    I love the Look of the Alphason and was keeping a very keen eye on what was happening! here. I do own a mission and my experience of the Mission is nothing like Jamies.

    The Alphason is on my ebay search list and has been for some time. Hopefully ill get one and see what magic it can offer.

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    The Mission is simply my favourite arm. I've heard some of the best sounds ever from vinyl from one in the past. Personally I would never re-wire any arm though.
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    For me, the thing about the 774 is the versatility. I can use any cartridges I choose with it and have excellent sound. Ultra high compliance ADC's to low compliance Deccas and MC's.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Well, im going to be a bit controversial here.....

    I dont feel this has been the "best case comparison" I was hoping for.

    I dont blame Jamie, he quite clearly loves the Alphason, as he should but that Mission needed rewiring before a comparison took place. Cartridge compatibility could've also played a part here too but im not so sure.

    I love the Look of the Alphason and was keeping a very keen eye on what was happening! here. I do own a mission and my experience of the Mission is nothing like Jamies.
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    yes sorry oliver i agree it wasn't a good write up was it,i just got to a point with both arms and thought,sod it ones so much better than the other whats the point??
    dont get me wrong the mission didnt sound crap after all i wouldn't have bought 2 others in the past,just a bit flat,i also get where your coming from when you described it as 'dark sounding'.
    ive checked the bearings and they have no play.

    i wanted the mission to be equally as good but it just wasn't on my tt and cartridge,on paper and barry if your reading this please confirm the 2m black suits the mission better,only just though.
    who knows i may still re-wire just for fun and do a re check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    Personally I would never re-wire any arm though.
    why is that jez?
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    Like many arms, it was wired to a price. Most can be bettered and after years of service it makes sense to me if youve any doubts. My arm is getting on a bit and i guess if i had money i might. But it still sounds ok to me so stuff it. Leave that to the youngsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    why is that jez?
    As is commonly known to anyone who hasn't spent the last ten years in Outer Mongolia I'm 100% against the very concept of wiring having any effect whatsoever. Whether it's mains cables, speaker cables, arm wiring etc etc. End of subject.
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    ah cool so we can rule out the difference being in wire on both arms then.
    sweet as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    ah cool so we can rule out the difference being in wire on both arms then.
    sweet as.
    Yep.
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