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Thread: Will I Ever purchase Vinyl / CD again... perhaps YES

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    Default Will I Ever purchase Vinyl / CD again... perhaps YES

    I know this will probably irritate many of you Hi-FI aficionados, but bear in mind most of my kit is vintage (almost as old as me).

    Before I begin, I have some 2000+ Records and many hundreds of CD's / SACD's.

    My music collection has now exceeded 40,000,000 in high res Lossless Flac.... complements of Tidal.

    What I'm asking, does anybody else use this service, as I believe it's the dogs bollocks. Not just the quantity, but the quality of the music playback.

    I spend approximately £40 month on music (Vinyl or cd) and although this stuff is lovely to handle .... only one or two tracks make me smile.

    I've been testing Tidal over the last weeks and there really is not an Album or track that isn't available. Not just the artist but every album ever produced.

    All this for £20 month or cheaper if six months in advance. This is half the price I'm paying now for some, "not all" disappointing albums at present.

    Obviously, streaming music is mainly dependent on the quality of the DAC / Amp being used which I understand.

    I'm a big fan of JRIVER via my NAS drive (most files in HD downloads) at £20/25 a pop, mainly to save the ware on my Benz Wood and Tidal beats this format into submission.

    If nothing else, at least I can listen to the full album before making a purchase and maybe only purchase my most favorite album / CD/ SACD after a full listen in the future.

    Please don't tell me Spotify does this as well..... not even half the quality.

    MY Kit:

    McIntosh MA2275
    Rock 7 / SME V / Benz Wood
    KEF 105/3's
    Marantz SACD
    Pioneer 909 (Reel to Reel)... don't laugh !!(and yes I do use it)
    Teac UD503 DAC
    Dynalab FM
    NJC Sut.

    Your thoughts, opinions, abuse would be welcome.

    Peter



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    40 million albums

    How will you ever listen to them

    Stick with your loved black round discs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    40 million albums

    How will you ever listen to them

    Stick with your loved black round discs
    70 now, so not much chance.... but sooooo nice to have the choice!!


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    Spotify does it too I know its only mp3 but its pretty good. Cant afford tidal....yet
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

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    Yes another Tidal user here, recently got a Mytek Brooklyn dac, so had to try some MQA stuff. The sound in many respects beats my vinyl front end.
    “Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel. Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio”

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    It's a very poor substitute for the real thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    It's a very poor substitute for the real thing
    I would somewhat disagree with that statement. Yes, not as good as a decent front end but most certainly NOT a poor substitute.

    And now I can listen to EVERYTHING

    You obviously have not listened to Tidal ( Studio quality)

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    All fine and dandy providing they stay in business. Neither Tidal nor Spotify have ever posted a penny in profit. I can understand the appeal of the catalogue although I think some stuff is unavailable (Neil Young and Led Zeppelin I think), but I wouldn't be too quick to sell a physical musical collection and rely solely on Tidal because there is a fair chance that it won't be around forever.
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    Dont see spotify going anywhere. THey have led zeppelin by way. Very little they dont have tbh. I know is only 320mb but is mostly pretty decent quality. I can run flac through my dac from pc or same on spotify 320 and it can be hard to tell difference on a lot of it.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Dont see spotify going anywhere. THey have led zeppelin by way. Very little they dont have tbh. I know is only 320mb but is mostly pretty decent quality. I can run flac through my dac from pc or same on spotify 320 and it can be hard to tell difference on a lot of it.
    True especially if you listen in isolation. Do the back to back comparison against the CD though and Spotify can sound a bit flat. Maybe not enough to be a deal breaker but as they used to say on the Galaxy chocolate adverts, why have cotton when you can have silk?

    I was talking about Zep on Tidal btw I thought I read somewhere that there was none on Tidal. Possibly I was mistaken or the situation has changed since.

    Spotify intending to float btw, was on the news this morning, but they need to up their revenue a bit first.
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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