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    Just a few pics for Croftphiles who would like to see what the internals of Croft 25R with upgraded line stage.
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    fithy hi fi porn!!!-

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    Wow !!

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    How is this different to the standard 25R? Interested to know about any particular modifications and what difference you felt they made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephantears View Post
    How is this different to the standard 25R? Interested to know about any particular modifications and what difference you felt they made.
    The line stage is from the 25RS. Bit more open sound and slightly more dynamic.
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    Thanks for sharing the pics with us James! I really should look to get my 25 upgraded to "R" spec at some point!
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    Lots of gubbins inside , very nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazeur1 View Post
    Thanks for sharing the pics with us James! I really should look to get my 25 upgraded to "R" spec at some point!
    If you do get it upgraded Tim, maybe get the linestage done at the same time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    The line stage is from the 25RS. Bit more open sound and slightly more dynamic.
    It looks the same as the 25R in essentials, although there do look to be some different resistors etc. I'm not an expert, I should add. But the key to the RS is the separate PSU. Just trying to ascertain what exactly Glenn has done to this, since I have an R myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephantears View Post
    It looks the same as the 25R in essentials, although there do look to be some different resistors etc. I'm not an expert, I should add. But the key to the RS is the separate PSU. Just trying to ascertain what exactly Glenn has done to this, since I have an R myself.
    Sorry Andy i should have been a bit more specific. I was in a bit of a rush last night.

    So what Glenn has done is change the line stage resisitors to non inductive type as well as reconfiguring the circuitry to work with the 12BH7a valve type.These are key elements in the RS although as you rightly mention the RS has a separate PSU. I believe the change to this linestage is more significant than the separate PSU in terms of SQ but I cannot be sure unless I could get the two box 25R and listen back to back against mine. I expect the separate PSU lowers the noise floor as it is situated well away from the valves causing less interference?
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

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