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  1. #31
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    I can't comment on the technicalities of this particular discussion, in terms of who's 'right' or 'wrong', as I'm not qualified to do so. However, what I do insist upon is that no-one on this forum automatically appoints themselves as the 'official guru' on ANY subject, Tannoys or otherwise, as that's not how we operate here.

    How we operate, is to encourage input from *everyone*, and when two people who clearly have a level of expertise in the subject concerned 'lock horns', for want of a better description, the idea of the exercise is to respect each other's expertise/experience, and conduct a mutually beneficial dialogue that will (hopefully) educate and be put to good use by the membership.

    Therefore, scoring points to feed egos, or a selfish desire to be seen as 'the main man', should always come second to that. Just sayin'...

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I can't comment on the technicalities of this particular discussion, in terms of who's 'right' or 'wrong', as I'm not qualified to do so. However, what I do insist upon is that no-one on this forum automatically appoints themselves as the 'official guru' on ANY subject, Tannoys or otherwise, as that's not how we operate here.

    How we operate, is to encourage input from *everyone*, and when two people who clearly have a level of expertise in the subject concerned 'lock horns', for want of a better description, the idea of the exercise is to respect each other's expertise/experience, and conduct a mutually beneficial dialogue that will (hopefully) educate and be put to good use by the membership.

    Therefore, scoring points to feed egos, or a selfish desire to be seen as 'the main man', should always come second to that. Just sayin'...

    Marco.

    No one is being any sort of a guru Marco. I always offer honest advice but when other people who clearly haven't grasped some of the concepts then appoint themselves as judge and jury, I will respond accordingly. Just saying

    If you'd rather I didn't bother, then that's absolutely fine with me as it's often a thankless task. I have nothing to prove or to justify and won't be playing those games. If that is what this forum is coming to, then I'm equally happy to drop out without any contribution. It has nothing to do with points scoring so please be very careful with what you are saying. I know what I'm about and it's taken years of learning, and am not an amateur in these things. I don't claim to be any sort of expert either but can only respond with honesty. That's me done with entering these discussions. I only entered this one because Tony was after advice from me. Over and out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reffc View Post
    No one is being any sort of a guru Marco. I always offer honest advice but when other people who clearly haven't grasped some of the concepts then appoint themselves as judge and jury, I will respond accordingly. Just saying
    Well, that's absolutely fine, and you're entitled to do so, as long as you don't make it personal. Similarly, I *will* respond as I see fit, when I consider it warranted

    If you'd rather I didn't bother, then that's absolutely fine with me as it's often a thankless task. I have nothing to prove or to justify and won't be playing those games. If that is what this forum is coming to, then I'm equally happy to drop out without any contribution. It has nothing to do with points scoring so please be very careful with what you are saying. I know what I'm about and it's taken years of learning, and am not an amateur in these things. I don't claim to be any sort of expert either but can only respond with honesty. That's me done with entering these discussions. I only entered this one because Tony was after advice from me. Over and out.
    I've addressed the above in a PM, which you will read, so there no point in going over old ground. The basic premise here is that ALL contributions are welcome, on ANY subject, and when 'techies' get involved and offer their input, no-one's relevant expertise is considered as the 'most authoritative'!

    That's it. It's a general point, and thus not directed at anyone specific

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Guys, I insist that this thread gets back on-topic, so any further backchat (from those who think that they're entitled to have the last word) will be deleted without further warning, and if such persists, the thread will be closed.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Default gosh. I didnt want to stir it up

    Wow.

    I have been away from the forum for a while. I had no idea that my initial somewhat naive query would create such angst .

    I am so so sorry guys.
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    oh we like a good bit of angst
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    Three years on, this might have been best left consigned to history.
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