Trade: Wakefield Turntables
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 9,321
I'm Andrew.
What are your Super Tweeter findings?
OK. I bought a cheap £50 pair from Japan. I wasn't expecting much but so far this is what I think I'm hearing :-
1. Slightly more shimmer to brush work on some of my Jazz records.
2. Piano's seem to have a little more solidity.
3. Bass seems a little deeper and extended.
4. A little more realis.
Now is this in my head or do you guys get similar results???
SS
CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10
VALVE
PRE Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker
Trade: 20/20 Audio
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 7,723
I'm Brian.
Nope , it's not in your head Andy . I'm hearing the same improvements . TAKET supertweeters by any chance ?
Regards
Brian
Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )
Korus Computer Audio music server
JustBoom DAC . HRT Musicstreamer 2
Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
Speakers : Tannoy 637
Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
Speaker cables : Western Electric 16AG
Trade: Wakefield Turntables
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 9,321
I'm Andrew.
YEP!Originally Posted by brian2957
. TAKET supertweeters by any chance ?
SS
CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10
VALVE
PRE Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker
Trade: 20/20 Audio
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 7,723
I'm Brian.
Me too , and they're staying in my system
Regards
Brian
Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )
Korus Computer Audio music server
JustBoom DAC . HRT Musicstreamer 2
Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
Speakers : Tannoy 637
Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
Speaker cables : Western Electric 16AG
Moderator & Terminator!
Location: N E Kent
Posts: 51,625
I'm Geoff.
I've experimented a lot with supertweeters over the years. The effects vary, but are very apparent, but more by their absence when the supertweeters are disconnected. If employed correctly that is. Many folk use a filter that comes in too low and the output is too prominent, intruding into the audible output from the main tweeter.
I tried Decca DK30 ribbon horns, Celestion HF2000, KEF T27, Isophon DKT 11/C 110/8 horns, Small JBL horns (can't recall model) and even Goodmans DT3 tweeters (which work rather well). The HF2000 and DK30 were the best though, by quite a margin. Both unintrusive due to their smooth and well extended response. The results from the HF2000 in particular were superb.
I got best results just rolling tweeters in with 0.22uF or 0.1 uF capacitors. That sounds too small a value, but it works.
It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!
Trade: Wakefield Turntables
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 9,321
I'm Andrew.
Geoff, what do you mean by a "filter", can you expand on this? I'm a little new to experimenting with these so don't fully understand the whole terminology yet.
SS
CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10
VALVE
PRE Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker
Trade: 20/20 Audio
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 7,723
I'm Brian.
The TAKET supertweeters can be plugged straight into an amp or in my case straight from my speaker terminals . Nothing else required .
Regards
Brian
Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )
Korus Computer Audio music server
JustBoom DAC . HRT Musicstreamer 2
Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
Speakers : Tannoy 637
Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
Speaker cables : Western Electric 16AG
Moderator & Terminator!
Location: N E Kent
Posts: 51,625
I'm Geoff.
As Brian indicates, many supertweeters include a built in filter to roll the unit in above a particular point. Unless there are selectable frequency points, this can be a bit arbitrary and not necessarily suited to all setups.
I prefer to employ a capacitor filter of my own choice. I find a shallow roll in curve seems best (6db/oct), except with HF1300 equipped speakers, where I use a 12db or 18db roll in. Calculations and tables can help, but in the end I always do an amount of trial and probably error. It pays to experiment with the phase too.
It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!
Trade: Wakefield Turntables
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 9,321
I'm Andrew.
I've got mine plugged straight into the speaker terminals. I'm using some old Duelund 16AWG shortly to be replaced with my favourite Van Damme blue.
SS
CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10
VALVE
PRE Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker
Fount Master & Moderator
Location: Essex
Posts: 31,984
I'm openingabottleofwine.
As far as I can see, the TAKET super tweeters are ultrasonic, in the sense their response is 20 - 150kHz. Their impedance is high at 4kOhm, so no filter is necessary and they can be directly wired in parallel with the main speakers.
http://www.taket.jp/about6/about6.html
Barry
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote