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    Another death, the policeman who was stabbed has died
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    The Religion of Peace at work again

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    I see the BT online TV guide is down. They are based 600 yards from The Palace of Westminster. I guess they evacuated.
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    A newspaper stated that some Muslim doctor is saying we are profiling him because he has been checked three times while getting on an airplane. The following is a letter from a pilot. This well - spoken man, who is a pilot with American Airlines, says what is in his heart, beautifully.





    YOU WORRY ME!

    By Captain John Maniscalco, American Airlines Pilot



    I've been trying to say this since 911, but you worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me.



    I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now.



    I don't fully understand their grievances and hate, but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.



    On September 11, ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others, hacking their necks, over and over, with box cutters. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings, killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers.



    The Palestinians celebrated, the Iraqis were overjoyed as was most of the Arab world. So, I notice you now. I don't want to be worried.

    I don't want to be consumed by the same rage, hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist.



    How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim Americans and the Arab/Muslim terrorists in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter MORE of the same good neighbors and children?



    The events of September 11 changed the answer.. It is not MY responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me.



    I want to know, I DEMAND to know and I have a right to know, whether or not you love America ..... Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation; that He will protect it and let it prosper? Or do you pray that Allah will destroy it in one of your Jihads? Are you thankful for the freedom that this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots, who have through our history, given their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America?? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it.



    Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions YOU are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America. Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent, because I worry about who you regard as innocent. No more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks, because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy; I am interested only in action. What will you do for America - our great country - at this time of continuing crisis, at this time of war?



    I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting 'Allah Bless America'. I want to see young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to our returning wounded and to this nation as a whole.



    The FBI has had a long list of people they've wanted to interact with regarding the threats that they believe to be ongoing. Many of these people live and socialize right now in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Give the FBI a heads up as to where they may be. Better yet, hand them over to us, NOW! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.



    The very few Arab/Muslim representatives, like CARE, that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States apologize and take responsibility for actions defending our own people. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing 'leaders' like the late Khadafi, the late Hussein, Farrakhan, and the late Arafat.



    If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people, then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good, pure, and true, when your 'leaders' ARE teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance? It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if huge numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world.



    A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.



    We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us -- our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to DEMAND it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family.



    I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American...... But there can be no grey areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance, and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then, "YOU WORRY ME!"



    CANADIAN COMMENTS:



    I totally agree with this sentiment. I hope you will forget all about the 'political correctness' mandate we've had rammed down our throats by so many on the left, and see if this doesn't ring true in your heart and mind. For Canada, with all the multiculturalism we've been told is so important....why should we not, as Canadians, expect that the millions of new people immigrating to our country will show their love for our country, their allegiance to our country, their willingness to obey the laws of our country, and acceptance that we are a Christian country? Just because they are able to enjoy exercising their own religion, they should NOT expect us to be ashamed of ours. They knew Canada was a Christian country when they came here. Why are we erasing Christianity because immigrants who are unwilling to adopt our way of life expect us to? There is just too much insanity in the world, and we have to start taking a stand.



    I hope you will forward this, so that others will feel they are not alone if they are starting to feel the same.



    BRITISH COMMENTS: At last a clear non-racist example of the concerns that the vast majority of our Nations population probably share. The pilot's letter encapsulates all that is fair and just about national pride and protection of one's national culture. I fear it may be too late here in UK, BUT we too want our country back in the form that attracted all these different cultures to come here in the first place!! In all our conversations with a wide range of friends and acquaintances we have not met one that disagrees with our own views.



    If only we all had the courage of our convictions to pass this on, it is a statement that should be accepted as the heart-felt feelings of someone with honest commendable national pride.



    Not all Muslims are terrorists but almost all terrorists to date have been Muslims. Stand up and be counted!



    Australian Comment: Best email I have had in years it needs to be in every paper every day until we get some answers. We need all be very concerned, note the pattern in Australia is the same for the other countries above. Where are the believers of Islam in our beloved country standing up and being counted in all these issues?



    I have not seen one!



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    Channel 4 news now back tracking re who they named as the attacker Idiots.
    Regards Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by shire View Post
    A newspaper stated that some Muslim doctor is saying we are profiling him because he has been checked three times while getting on an airplane. The following is a letter from a pilot. This well - spoken man, who is a pilot with American Airlines, says what is in his heart, beautifully.
    very true
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    Religion is the route cause in all these issues and will only get worse. The Christian religion was no better with its crusades with slaughter across the Middle East. I say ban religion and all live as one. Though this will never happen the madness will continue.
    I also think the Counter Terror Department need to get a little bit more real and start knocking on doors.
    Very sad
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    Though it's easy to see why the pilot (whose letter is reproduced above) is worried, it is depressing that the things he identifies, the things he wants to see, to reassure him are more flags (American), more chanting, more slogans ("I love this country") and more rampant nationalism. Flags, sects, nationalism, religions - in short the categories, subdivisions and labels that mankind seems to love to put in place between "us" and "not us" - are what got us here in the first place. They are the last thing we need to get us out of it.

    This pilot has a way with flowery language, and at first glance that lends his piece an ersatz high-mindedness. But on further examination I think the message is basically just more of the same old slightly unpleasant - and potentially dangerous - stuff.
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    Absolutely shocking, and my heart goes out to all the families who've lost their loved ones or been badly injured in this tragedy. However, do we know for certain it was a terror attack or just some loon, with a grievance against 'the system', who ran amok?

    As far as I understand it, the motivation of the attacker is still in doubt, so we should consider that before labelling it as terrorism, and with it pandering to how the media are sensationalising the situation, and breeding hatred against Islam, as a result of some (as of yet) unknown agenda. We should always look beyond the obvious and consider the bigger picture.

    I've been reading some of the comments over on pfm, and Jonathan Ribee makes an interesting point (click on link to read): http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/s...7&postcount=65

    If it wasn't a terrorist attack, and instead the above, then I feel Jon's comments below are deeply relevant, especially considering recent discussions here regarding the 'have' and 'have nots' of this world:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Ribee
    Also making it complex is the massive gulf between the haves and have nots in education and wealth both inside our society and between our society and other societies - which help create the conditions for these people to be radicalised.
    That is *so* spot on!

    The fact is, religion aside (and I agree that, when twisted and abused, it is a major contributory factor in driving terrorism), the huge social divide and grossly unjust division of wealth and opportunities in the world we live in today, is feeding political radicalism and breeding many angry people, who feel victims of the system, alienated and disenfranchised from society, and thus seek some form 'recompense', which in their distressed mental state, they are able to justify.

    Now of course such sickening actions, murdering and injuring innocent people, as we saw yesterday, can never be 'justified' in any way. It's an atrocity civilised society must always fight against and try its best to prevent.

    It is, however, symptomatic of what happens when huge gulfs are created in society by grossly unjust divisions of wealth, especially by successive governments (which is perhaps why in this instance Westminster was targeted), seeking at all cost to look after the 'haves', to the gross detriment of the 'have nots' - and the longer that bias prevails, things will only get worse, and unfortunately we may see more shocking events, such as we witnessed yesterday.

    Therefore, if it wasn't an out-and-out terrorist attack, I think the government needs to see yesterday's tragic events as a severe wake up call, and that the alienated and downtrodden in society simply will no longer 'sit back and take it' - and that those amongst them who are sick and mentally broken will channel their anger and retaliate in the most brutal and devastating way possible.

    Fundamental changes in how the system works are most certainly needed if what happened yesterday is not to occur again.

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    My heart and my soul goes out to those who now have to live the remainder of their lives with serious disabilities and PTSD.

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