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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    What about non-downloading/non-streaming digital enthusiasts? Dunno - nearer to the analogue bunch maybe in that the love of artefacts and the desire to collect are still part of the pastime.
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    Not for me. I can't sell my vinyl because they are artefacts to me. By comparison CDs are just things that do a job, I lose one or break one I just buy another. There is no emotional investment. But I'm not a collector of vinyl or CD in the true sense of the word. I do miss the crate digging with vinyl, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    Digital is for music lovers. Analogue is for equipment lovers.

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    Obviously not true - at least, not as stated. But it's not hard to make the argument that if streaming a song, or downloading it, ticks enough boxes to keep you happy, then it's clear that all you want is to be able to hear the music - even if not at the ultimate quality. If, on the other hand, you love to be able to hold an album and read the its cover, if you love nosing around 2nd hand vinyl shops and people-watching all the other like-minded weirdos who work and browse in them, if you don't mind routinely checking your azimuth and VTA to ensure it is delivering, and if you enjoy browsing internet forums to read about cartridge compliance and effective mass, then it's clear you have bought into something much wider than just listening to music. The classic car analogy (previous page - maybe - depending on how fast I type) is apt here as well. The comparison between owning a classic car and a newer, faster, cheaper car is meaningless, because they are not delivering the same thing to their owners. One simply satisfies a need for transport, whilst the other delivers its owner into a world of sensations, recollections, historical and cultural references that go so much further than just transport.

    What about non-downloading/non-streaming digital enthusiasts? Dunno - nearer to the analogue bunch maybe in that the love of artefacts and the desire to collect are still part of the pastime.
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    Digital reminds me hypertext, as opposed to regular text. If I'm reading a regular book, I usually do it sequentially. On occasion, I may skip a chapter or two, or start from the middle, etc., but that's not typically how I experience and enjoy books.

    If I'm reading a hypertext document, I am liable to start clicking on links. Those links magically transport me to other parts of the digital document/book, or even to completely different digital books. That's exhilarating, as I'm now in control of the sequence and the dosage of the content I'm consuming.

    But you see, with digital, I lose the organic connection with what the author had actually intended to portray. So in the end, this fast and furious digital diet, where I keep streaming and downloading and skipping all over the place, leaves me hungry and ultimately dissatisfied. That's the reason I prefer the analog, more sequential diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Digital reminds me hypertext, as opposed to regular text. If I'm reading a regular book, I usually do it sequentially. On occasion, I may skip a chapter or two, or start from the middle, etc., but that's not typically how I experience and enjoy books.

    If I'm reading a hypertext document, I am liable to start clicking on links. Those links magically transport me to other parts of the digital document/book, or even to completely different digital books. That's exhilarating, as I'm now in control of the sequence and the dosage of the content I'm consuming.

    But you see, with digital, I lose the organic connection with what the author had actually intended to portray. So in the end, this fast and furious digital diet, where I keep streaming and downloading and skipping all over the place, leaves me hungry and ultimately dissatisfied. That's the reason I prefer the analog, more sequential diet.
    Crikey! Have you seen anyone about this!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    Crikey! Have you seen anyone about this!?
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    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    Crikey! Have you seen anyone about this!?
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    Yes, my therapist claims that hypertext doesn't exist, and that it's all in my head. Still, I'm enjoying it immensely, even if we're all just a computer simulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Digital reminds me hypertext, as opposed to regular text. If I'm reading a regular book, I usually do it sequentially. On occasion, I may skip a chapter or two, or start from the middle, etc., but that's not typically how I experience and enjoy books.

    If I'm reading a hypertext document, I am liable to start clicking on links. Those links magically transport me to other parts of the digital document/book, or even to completely different digital books. That's exhilarating, as I'm now in control of the sequence and the dosage of the content I'm consuming.

    But you see, with digital, I lose the organic connection with what the author had actually intended to portray. So in the end, this fast and furious digital diet, where I keep streaming and downloading and skipping all over the place, leaves me hungry and ultimately dissatisfied. That's the reason I prefer the analog, more sequential diet.
    Deep but I get that

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    Deep but I get that
    I was mostly referring to streaming and the 'monkey mind' that as soon as it grabs one branch (i.e. starts listening to one track), immediately lets go of that branch and grabs onto another. I'm finding myself hopping from one track to the next, unrelated track simply because I'm holding my phone with seemingly endless playlists. With LPs, I am forced to be more patient, I dive deeper into the music, I stay faithfully for the duration of the entire side of an LP, and in the end get a much more nutritious, steady diet of the wholesome musical content.
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    the best analogy i heard is vinyl is loaf of bread and digital is the same loaf but cut up into slices,when you put all the slices together it makes the same loaf again but its slightly smaller due to the cuts.
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    Worth a read if comparisons with wheat based produce are not enough:

    http://www.audioholics.com/audio-tec...reality-part-1
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    lol
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