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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Think you would have to start another post to cover distortion in nature. Moving away a bit from your LP vs CD playback post me thinks?
    Yes, you're right. If we all agree here, for a moment, that analogue is natural, and digital is merely contrived by human mind, then digital could be labeled, for a brief New York minute, as 'distorted'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Yes, you're right. If we all agree here, for a moment, that analogue is natural, and digital is merely contrived by human mind, then digital could be labeled, for a brief New York minute, as 'distorted'.
    Analogue is indeed natural, just so long as you're not referring to recording.
    Any form of recording is contrived by the human mind, and therefore distorted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Analogue is indeed natural, just so long as you're not referring to recording.
    Any form of recording is contrived by the human mind, and therefore distorted.
    Are you sure? Fossils have been recorded by the forces of mother nature in the absence of human mind (as far as we know). Are you saying fossils are distorted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Are you sure? Fossils have been recorded by the forces of mother nature in the absence of human mind (as far as we know). Are you saying fossils are distorted?
    Insert the word "audio" before the word "recording" in both sentences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Are you sure? Fossils have been recorded by the forces of mother nature in the absence of human mind (as far as we know). Are you saying fossils are distorted?
    good mushrooms you have. No, really !

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    Quote Originally Posted by r100 View Post
    good mushrooms you have. No, really !
    No, wrong slang.
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    Far out!!
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    In this instance, I'm afraid it isn't. Anyone who claims to champion a purist approach of faithfully reproducing the sound that the left the studio, cannot sensibly simultaneously advocate using a graphic equaliser, which tailors the sound, thus achieves precisely the opposite.

    That's a fact, I'm afraid, whether you like it or not, and so continuing to deny it just makes you look silly.

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    And the long list of equipment that follows your signature might lead some to wonder to what extent your own 'purist' ideas are borne out by your choice of kit!

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    Joe, my previous signature isn't relevant here, as its message only applies where there exists a degree of ambiguity, and in the example I've given, there is none. When black is black, it's black, and when white is white, it's white.

    As far as my 'long list of equipment' goes, I've no idea what relevance that has to your comment. It's simply (for reference purposes) a detailed list of everything I've got that *sometimes* is in use - it's not all used at once!

    More importantly, your penchant for popping up now and then, simply to have a dig, is becoming a little wearing, so give it a rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yomanze View Post
    Perhaps weirdly I prefer CD to vinyl. I do think it is much easier to get a non-fatiguing sound from LP, warts and all, but when you get digital right, it wins for me.

    ...the bigger issue IMHO is down to mastering, especially digital remasters. They often sound far too "hot" and fizzy (compressed) on CD, which gives the LP an unfair advantage.
    The issue with CD is the fact the master has to be rendered and dithered to 16 bits. All DAW's work at 32 bits internally and most audio at 24 bit. When this 24 bit master is put on LP it translates well since it does not need bit reduction and it seems to keep its open richer sound. Only issue with LP is running time. The album needs to be 45 mins max. CD holds more audio but the 24 bit has to be dithered and then it can sound restrained and lacking dynamics. Also using compressors to make it 'hot' does not help re the loudness wars. Louder with compressors always sounds better at first until you hear all the dynamics have been squashed but 99% of people dont care about that on their smart phone ear buds.
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