Describe differences in LP playback vs CD playback

[magiccarpetride]

Read post 122, he admits he is just too lazy to run a vinyl set up. I know quite a few people like that who prefer an iPad and run all their music remotely and then convince themselves digital sounds better just because they can't be arsed to set a turntable up correctly and turn an album over!

Reminds me of people who could not be arsed to cook and prefer to shove crappy preprocessed packaged 'food' into microwave oven.

[Marco]

Lots of missing the point here, guys!

I don't get this. Why discriminate like that? Why not just enjoy the realism that a good TT gives you? Who cares if it's live or studio or whatever?

If your system successfully reproduces a studio album, so that it sounds like a studio album, I'd say that was "realism'...

Marco.

[magiccarpetride]

Lots of missing the point here, guys!



If your system successfully reproduces a studio album, so that it sounds like a studio album, I'd say that was "realism'...

Marco.

Fine. But my issue is that I have no idea how a studio album should sound like. I only go by how realistic the instruments/voices sound during the reproduction. I know how a guitar should sound, I know how drums should sound, so live or studio, that's what I'm hoping to hear when listening to a record.

[Marco]

Fine. But my issue is that I have no idea how a studio album should sound like...

Not like a live album, I guess!

Sorry, I'm being facetious.... Best get Martin to explain.

Marco.

[magiccarpetride]

Not like a live album, I guess!

Sorry, I'm being facetious.... Best get Martin to explain.

Marco.

To me, instruments are instruments. I know for a fact that even live recordings do get doctored to a certain degree in the studio, during the post-production stage. So the line is often blurred.

But a music lover knows what kind of sound to expect when a violin jumps in, live or not. And the more the music reproduction system can approach that special violin sound, the happier should the listener be. We should not waste our little grey cells thinking "oh shit, this studio album is awful, it sounds like a live recording!", or "crap, this live album sounds like a studio album. Something's wrong with my system!"

[Barry]

That's it exactly. Regardless of how the recording was made it is never going to be anything more than a recording. So it should sound like a recording - if it is a purist recording, say a band recorded playing live in a room, I want to hear them in that room, not my room.

Precisely!

[Barry]

Post 102

Yes, I tried the hands 'cupping' the ears test for both vinyl replay and CD replay - and found the exact reverse. Regardless of source, the treble was accentuated and the mid and upper mid took on a nasal 'cuppy' quality (no surprise there) that rminded me of why I don't like horn loudspeakers.

For me it failed as a test to descriminate between vinyl and CD.

[Firebottle]

Same here, and indeed have being doing, as I've been posting here today. The steaming system has been constantly playing a variety of music since 9.30am, and still is now, as I'm typing!

Ah we've found your secret Marco .........

You're steam powered, that must be really retro.

[Jimbo]

Precisely!

But they may not be in a room. Have any of you guys seen a recording studio or know how one works? They usually have people in separate booths all in headphones playing their individual parts which are then manipulated via a large mixing console. You are very rarely hearing a band playing in their room!

[Haselsh1]

Hmm. Yesterday I came home with 21 LPs under my arm. I paid grand total of $15.00 for 21 LPs. How can you beat that price wise?

Ah but are you comparing secondhand junk with brand new CD prices...? I was comparing like for like.