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  1. #11
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    Smart move, Nathan. There aren't many C1s around, and the 10-inch Jelco would be a great match! Keep us posted on developments

    As aside, if you ever see a 'GL' for sale (Gold Limited), it's just about the best 103 ever made - truly stunning sound!

    Marco.
    "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do". - Milan Kundera.

    "Your validity or worth are not defined or determined by the views of others with their own superimposed agendas". - Pharos (on AoS)

    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU/Williams Audio NAS linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Nathan,

    103s, of any description work best on classic Japanese 'S-shaped' arms with detachable headshells, so Denon's own, from 'back in the day,' are ideal (many available now on ebay), but only entertain ones where the seller has tested the bearings, and has mentioned such. Another great arm for a DL-103 is a Linn LVV. Real synergy happens there (especially when used with an Audio Technica MG-10 headshell), and it's cheap...!

    Here's a minter being sold with a Michell Focus One:



    Also, arms from Micro-Seiki, Pioneer, etc, are ideal, especially if you can fit a 10" arm on your turntable. Most of these Jap arms were available in 10" versions, as indeed is the popular Jelco. 10-inchers, IMO, are the ideal compromise between 9 and 12-inch arms, and with a heavy headshell fitted, provide the ideal amount of mass that allows a 103 to really sing!

    As an alternative, if you'd prefer new, a modern arm that works really well with a DL-103 (if you fit a high-mass headshell to it) is an SME M2-9R: http://www.sme-audio.com/tonearms/sm...-m2-9r-tonearm

    Essentially a 3009 revisited, but it's a bloody good arm, and musically far superior to a Series 300 (the one that SME and their dealers would prefer you to buy). Hope this helps

    Marco.
    Apologies , dont want to hijack the thread but that arm Marco is a bit like mine
    (Sorry , couldn't resist! )

    I only ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em work

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    Yup, it'll have been made by Jelco (or some other OEM Jap manufacturer) for Linn, hence the similar 'DNA'!

    Marco.
    "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do". - Milan Kundera.

    "Your validity or worth are not defined or determined by the views of others with their own superimposed agendas". - Pharos (on AoS)

    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU/Williams Audio NAS linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    Ok a change of heart and this is back up for sale.
    At the moment I haven't the funds to make this cartridge sing and it may take some time due to a new roof going on the house.

    Thank you to Marco for the advice given.

    £200 + delivery cost via special delivery.
    Edingdales, Chord Odyssey 2 Speaker Cable, Mark Grant G1000HD, World Designs Kel84, Denon AVC-A1D, Pioneer SA-8100, Pioneer TX-9100, IsoTek Multi-way 6 main filter, Nottingham Analogue Interspace, Jelco SA-750E 10", Denon DL-103C1 Paratrace profile diamond ExpertStylus, Firebottle Plus Phono Stage, 27" iMac 2010 For Digital Music, HTPC (XBMC) Optoma HD65 Projector, Self Built Electric Projector Lift, 92" Electric Screen, Phillips Pronto TSU9400 To Control It All

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    Weekend bump!
    Edingdales, Chord Odyssey 2 Speaker Cable, Mark Grant G1000HD, World Designs Kel84, Denon AVC-A1D, Pioneer SA-8100, Pioneer TX-9100, IsoTek Multi-way 6 main filter, Nottingham Analogue Interspace, Jelco SA-750E 10", Denon DL-103C1 Paratrace profile diamond ExpertStylus, Firebottle Plus Phono Stage, 27" iMac 2010 For Digital Music, HTPC (XBMC) Optoma HD65 Projector, Self Built Electric Projector Lift, 92" Electric Screen, Phillips Pronto TSU9400 To Control It All

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    Now sold subject to the usual stuff.
    Edingdales, Chord Odyssey 2 Speaker Cable, Mark Grant G1000HD, World Designs Kel84, Denon AVC-A1D, Pioneer SA-8100, Pioneer TX-9100, IsoTek Multi-way 6 main filter, Nottingham Analogue Interspace, Jelco SA-750E 10", Denon DL-103C1 Paratrace profile diamond ExpertStylus, Firebottle Plus Phono Stage, 27" iMac 2010 For Digital Music, HTPC (XBMC) Optoma HD65 Projector, Self Built Electric Projector Lift, 92" Electric Screen, Phillips Pronto TSU9400 To Control It All

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yup, it'll have been made by Jelco (or some other OEM Jap manufacturer) for Linn, hence the similar 'DNA'!

    Marco.
    I'd wager both of the arms displayed were made by the japanese company ADC. I have one of their designs on the "bench",
    one of these:


    And, if the deal on the DL should fall through for some reason, i'd be very interested!

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    Ok Mike I'll let you know.

    Cheers!

    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaGTV View Post
    I'd wager both of the arms displayed were made by the japanese company ADC. I have one of their designs on the "bench",
    one of these:


    And, if the deal on the DL should fall through for some reason, i'd be very interested!
    Edingdales, Chord Odyssey 2 Speaker Cable, Mark Grant G1000HD, World Designs Kel84, Denon AVC-A1D, Pioneer SA-8100, Pioneer TX-9100, IsoTek Multi-way 6 main filter, Nottingham Analogue Interspace, Jelco SA-750E 10", Denon DL-103C1 Paratrace profile diamond ExpertStylus, Firebottle Plus Phono Stage, 27" iMac 2010 For Digital Music, HTPC (XBMC) Optoma HD65 Projector, Self Built Electric Projector Lift, 92" Electric Screen, Phillips Pronto TSU9400 To Control It All

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaGTV View Post
    I'd wager both of the arms displayed were made by the japanese company ADC. I have one of their designs on the "bench",
    one of these:


    And, if the deal on the DL should fall through for some reason, i'd be very interested!
    Hi Mike,

    I think you could well be right. Btw, you have a PM

    Marco.
    "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do". - Milan Kundera.

    "Your validity or worth are not defined or determined by the views of others with their own superimposed agendas". - Pharos (on AoS)

    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU/Williams Audio NAS linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    The arm of mine in the pic on the previous page , is on a humble Ferguson TT ,late 70,s vintage .
    Its exactly the same arm on the HMV direct drive TT I own , which has an ADC headshell too fitted as standard , although the headshell is now on the Ferguson in the pic . BSR / ADC tie up so I believe.
    Very sexy arms

    Shame about the plastic base
    I have thought about putting a solid wood plinth under it !!

    Sorry for highjacking your thread Nathan , but seeing as you have sold it !!
    I only ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em work

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