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    surprised it will work well with Kabers. Only 15 watts in class A and that is probably optimistic. I suppose if you don't need to crank it will manage.

    You want a speaker that is sensitive and a fairly easy load to get the best out of it. 'Kabuki' speakers should be a good match. Or Wharfedale E series. Or if you want to get spendy some classic JBL - Century L100 would be my pick, about the right era too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    surprised it will work well with Kabers. Only 15 watts in class A and that is probably optimistic. I suppose if you don't need to crank it will manage.

    You want a speaker that is sensitive and a fairly easy load to get the best out of it. 'Kabuki' speakers should be a good match. Or Wharfedale E series. Or if you want to get spendy some classic JBL - Century L100 would be my pick, about the right era too.
    They sound awful though...

    The OP will need to decide on class A or class A/B use as speakers suited to 60WPC are not necessarily best for 15WPC of course!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    They sound awful though...
    Yeah. OK as party speakers, but coloured and ragged at the top.
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    off the pace nowadays I agree but there are plenty of speakers I prefer them to. They are good fun and will match the Marantz (in class A) well I reckon. Get that 'West Coast' sound going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Yeah. OK as party speakers, but coloured and ragged at the top.
    Yup. A mate had some... for about a week before he got shot of 'em. I remember us both kind of scratching our heads and comments like "and these cost how much new?". They go loud, in a screechy sort of way, and the bass is pretty good but I really can't think of anything else positive to say about them... They sound like PA speakers to me.
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    okay already! what's your suggestion then?
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    I'm sure a pair of Tannoy Westminster Royals would provide more than adequate volume and room filling.... they are... I mean sound
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    ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
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    How about something from Triangle. Good sensitivity and good sound.
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    No longer mine guys - Now my dads pair with a pair of B&O S60's - Technics SL-120 - SME 3009 S2 he's happy enough...
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    Hi Martin
    Yes it is surprising that they work with kabers, but you do need the rell with them, I am not a fan of the linns but the synergy is very good.
    A suggestion that I have is (if you can find a pair) mordant short signifiers an unsung hero that has been forgotten about.

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