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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    So, forgive me for this rant - you have all probably heard more about international taxation than you ever wanted - but it offends me to hear people proposing solutions like "force them to pay or kick them out". The world is very much more complicated than that, and we need to recognise it.
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    You are forgiven and happy to be corrected except there is nothing in your post that actually explains what the problem is with the 'pay or f**k off' ultimatum. Unless you are saying that UK tax law is so complex no-one really knows what they 'should' be paying? I can appreciate that is an issue.

    What I am suggesting is the UK closes these loopholes unilaterally by physically stopping business who exploit them from trading in the UK. I'm suggesting this as a principle btw, in practice I accept it would not be simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothchild View Post
    Who's paying all their tax as if they were sole trading in each jurisdiction as a matter of policy? You'd think they'd be making more of it in their marketing!
    Company I work for does this. I asked one of the senior accountants about it since it seemed to me that they were being mugs, as well as potentially breaking the law that requires the company pursue the best outcome for its shareholders. His response was that the negative publicity resulting from being 'spotlit' as a tax avoiding multinational was considered to have more of an adverse impact on profits than just paying the full tax.
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    What type of people own high-high-end gear?

    Me
    Regards Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    So, forgive me for this rant - you have all probably heard more about international taxation than you ever wanted - but it offends me to hear people proposing solutions like "force them to pay or kick them out". The world is very much more complicated than that, and we need to recognise it.
    Sorry to 'offend' you. However, No-one's saying that the world isn't much more complicated than that. I was simply outlining what I'd do, were it possible.

    It's just a light-hearted discussion, where some of us have 'vented spleen' about that which (or whom) annoys us in life, and not meant to be taken seriously

    Marco.
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  5. #205
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    What type of people own high-high-end gear?

    I do.
    Regards Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Joe,



    You're welcome to ask. Nope, since I left home at 25, and have been responsible for looking after myself, I've asked my parents for very little and largely supported myself. My wife was the same, and she left home in Wrexham (and went to work in London) long before I left home. Mind you, that was in the late 80s (we moved into our first house together in 1990), and property prices were very different then from now.

    We were also fortunate that both of us had very caring and supportive parents, and fortunately ones who were in a position financially to help us out if we needed it (both of us were also only children), so I guess we drew some comfort from knowing that help was always there if we needed it, but we're both fiercely independent and driven people (what in some circles are referred to as 'achievers'), and so we were determined to stand on our own two feet!.
    Thanks for that Marco. Sounds similar to us (well, apart from the 'fiercely independent and driven' bit). Buying property at the right time had a great deal to do with enabling us to make our way at about the same age, though I'd left home at 19 and moved down south. Both my sisters got some help from one of our aunts with the deposit on their first houses (and both of them still live in them), but by the time we got round to buying, my aunt had run out of money. (Itself a very thorny issue between my mother and her siblings, which led to an irreconcilable family split).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    What type of people own high-high-end gear?

    Me
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme DL
    What type of people own high-high-end gear?

    I do.
    Sound like we have an 'echo'.
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    An attempt at getting the thread back on track.

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    Mine is high end too.... well to someone in poverty it is And boy i,m in poverty.

    Think thats the point..high end is dependant on your pocket size
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    Thanks for that Marco. Sounds similar to us (well, apart from the 'fiercely independent and driven' bit). Buying property at the right time had a great deal to do with enabling us to make our way at about the same age, though I'd left home at 19 and moved down south. Both my sisters got some help from one of our aunts with the deposit on their first houses (and both of them still live in them), but by the time we got round to buying, my aunt had run out of money. (Itself a very thorny issue between my mother and her siblings, which led to an irreconcilable family split).
    No worries, Joe. I think it always helps understand people better and gauge 'what they're about', as it were, when you know something of their background

    Marco.
    "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do". - Milan Kundera.

    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Modified Goldpoint SA4M-47 passive preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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