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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    So, forgive me for this rant - you have all probably heard more about international taxation than you ever wanted - but it offends me to hear people proposing solutions like "force them to pay or kick them out". The world is very much more complicated than that, and we need to recognise it.
    IB
    You are forgiven and happy to be corrected except there is nothing in your post that actually explains what the problem is with the 'pay or f**k off' ultimatum. Unless you are saying that UK tax law is so complex no-one really knows what they 'should' be paying? I can appreciate that is an issue.

    What I am suggesting is the UK closes these loopholes unilaterally by physically stopping business who exploit them from trading in the UK. I'm suggesting this as a principle btw, in practice I accept it would not be simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothchild View Post
    Who's paying all their tax as if they were sole trading in each jurisdiction as a matter of policy? You'd think they'd be making more of it in their marketing!
    Company I work for does this. I asked one of the senior accountants about it since it seemed to me that they were being mugs, as well as potentially breaking the law that requires the company pursue the best outcome for its shareholders. His response was that the negative publicity resulting from being 'spotlit' as a tax avoiding multinational was considered to have more of an adverse impact on profits than just paying the full tax.
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    What type of people own high-high-end gear?

    Me
    Regards Neil

    System 1: AMG Giro turntable, AMG 9W2 tonearm, Air Tight PC3 cartridge, Passlabs Xono phonostage, AMG Reference armcable. Accuphase DP57 CD player, Marantz SA7 SACD player, Sony HAP Z1es Digital File Player + Audioquest Jitter Bug, Veracity Mystra DAC + Dell Laptop + iFi i power + JKenny JKSPIDIF, Wireworld Starlight USB + Audioquest Jitter Bug, for computer audio, Audio Valve RKV2 headphone amp, headphones Grado GS 1000, Balanced Audio Technology VK300se integrated amplifier, Anthony Gallo Reference 3.1 speakers. Cabling: Signal - Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, Atlas Mavros, Speaker - QED Genesis Silver Spiral. Mains Cabling: Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, TCI. Mark Grant distribution blocks, Equipment tables Target Audio B series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    So, forgive me for this rant - you have all probably heard more about international taxation than you ever wanted - but it offends me to hear people proposing solutions like "force them to pay or kick them out". The world is very much more complicated than that, and we need to recognise it.
    Sorry to 'offend' you. However, No-one's saying that the world isn't much more complicated than that. I was simply outlining what I'd do, were it possible.

    It's just a light-hearted discussion, where some of us have 'vented spleen' about that which (or whom) annoys us in life, and not meant to be taken seriously

    Marco.
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    What type of people own high-high-end gear?

    I do.
    Regards Neil

    System 1: AMG Giro turntable, AMG 9W2 tonearm, Air Tight PC3 cartridge, Passlabs Xono phonostage, AMG Reference armcable. Accuphase DP57 CD player, Marantz SA7 SACD player, Sony HAP Z1es Digital File Player + Audioquest Jitter Bug, Veracity Mystra DAC + Dell Laptop + iFi i power + JKenny JKSPIDIF, Wireworld Starlight USB + Audioquest Jitter Bug, for computer audio, Audio Valve RKV2 headphone amp, headphones Grado GS 1000, Balanced Audio Technology VK300se integrated amplifier, Anthony Gallo Reference 3.1 speakers. Cabling: Signal - Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, Atlas Mavros, Speaker - QED Genesis Silver Spiral. Mains Cabling: Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, TCI. Mark Grant distribution blocks, Equipment tables Target Audio B series.

    System 2: Loricraft Garrard 401 turntable + SME 5 tonearm + VDH MC10 cartridge + Graham IC70 tonearm cable, Modified Technics 1200 turntable + Triplannar 7 tonearm + VDH Frog Gold cartridge + Paul Hynes SR7 PSU, SME Model 20 turntable + Graham Phantom tonearm + Ortofon MC5200 cartridge + Graham IC70 tonearm cable, Balanced Audio Technology VK10se phonostage, Moon Andromeda CD player, Esoteric P5 SACD transport and P 5 DAC, Toshiba 9500 DVD Audio player, AMR DP777 DAC + HP laptop + iFi i power + Wireworld Starlight USB - for computer audio, Kenwood 8300 tuner, Revox B760 tuner, Magnum Dynalab signal sleuth, Leak Troughline tuner + EAR Stereo decoder, Revox B77 mk 2 & Revox A77 mk3 reel to reel recorders, Balanced Audio Technology VK52se pre-amplifier, Music Reference RM200 mk1 power-amplifier, Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5 speakers. Cabling: Signal/Speaker - Atlas Mavros. Mains Cabling: Audience AU24, TCI. Mains distribution blocks Mark Grant and Russ Andrews, Equipment tables Clear Light Audio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Joe,



    You're welcome to ask. Nope, since I left home at 25, and have been responsible for looking after myself, I've asked my parents for very little and largely supported myself. My wife was the same, and she left home in Wrexham (and went to work in London) long before I left home. Mind you, that was in the late 80s (we moved into our first house together in 1990), and property prices were very different then from now.

    We were also fortunate that both of us had very caring and supportive parents, and fortunately ones who were in a position financially to help us out if we needed it (both of us were also only children), so I guess we drew some comfort from knowing that help was always there if we needed it, but we're both fiercely independent and driven people (what in some circles are referred to as 'achievers'), and so we were determined to stand on our own two feet!.
    Thanks for that Marco. Sounds similar to us (well, apart from the 'fiercely independent and driven' bit). Buying property at the right time had a great deal to do with enabling us to make our way at about the same age, though I'd left home at 19 and moved down south. Both my sisters got some help from one of our aunts with the deposit on their first houses (and both of them still live in them), but by the time we got round to buying, my aunt had run out of money. (Itself a very thorny issue between my mother and her siblings, which led to an irreconcilable family split).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    What type of people own high-high-end gear?

    Me
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme DL
    What type of people own high-high-end gear?

    I do.
    Sound like we have an 'echo'.
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    An attempt at getting the thread back on track.

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    Mine is high end too.... well to someone in poverty it is And boy i,m in poverty.

    Think thats the point..high end is dependant on your pocket size
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    Thanks for that Marco. Sounds similar to us (well, apart from the 'fiercely independent and driven' bit). Buying property at the right time had a great deal to do with enabling us to make our way at about the same age, though I'd left home at 19 and moved down south. Both my sisters got some help from one of our aunts with the deposit on their first houses (and both of them still live in them), but by the time we got round to buying, my aunt had run out of money. (Itself a very thorny issue between my mother and her siblings, which led to an irreconcilable family split).
    No worries, Joe. I think it always helps understand people better and gauge 'what they're about', as it were, when you know something of their background

    Marco.
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