Visited Steve again tonight to here his new speakers... a pair of Kudos C30 speakers..absolutely superb..I rate these very highly...bags of detail, weight and finesse at the same time...best I've heard at Steve's..a truly wonderful pair of speakers..they work so well...Had a good 2 hours listening session..and have to say...you've hit the nail on the head this time Steve..at last a pair of speakers that do your system justice...I did like the Wilson Benesch...but these Kudos' beat them hands down...