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    I started digitising LPs a long while back to copy stuff that wasn't readily available on CD and at a time when online wasn't an option - quality wise or for availability.

    Initially used a Behringer Firewire device, then a little Terratec USB thingy - both did an OK job really but recently acquired a Focusrite Saffire for very little money and this does a much better job than both and is more versatile. I use Audacity for the authoring bit and am more than happy messing about separating tracks etc but quite honestly can't be bothered unless needs must. Only do it now for stuff I definitely can't get on CD (such as an obscure Bella Bartok recording and one or two other things I've found)

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    The mastering is different for each format, so you don't necessarily have the same thing, even if you do have the LP and the CD versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    The mastering is different for each format, so you don't necessarily have the same thing, even if you do have the LP and the CD versions.
    That's very true. Some are pretty close. Other ones are terrible on one or the other. Usually the CD, but not always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nthall View Post
    That's very true. Some are pretty close. Other ones are terrible on one or the other. Usually the CD, but not always.
    Exactly!
    Any fans of Red Hot Chili Peppers who have not heard the vinyl release of Stadium Arcadium have not heard this album in all its glory.
    You can almost guarantee that the band will have delivered a finished master (ie the way the band intended it to be heard) to the record company, and if that's where things stopped everything would be fine and dandy.

    Unfortunately, the record company will then send the master to various mastering engineers, with instructions as to how things should be mastered.
    With vinyl it's often sent to an established old hand, with instructions to do a decent cut. Old hand does the job properly.
    With CD the instructions could be to make it as loud as possible, to compete with other stuff being released by other record companies. Engineer does as he's/she's asked, as they'd like to get paid for the job, and to get repeat work from the client (ie the record company).

    A lot comes down to the abuses that can be administered to a recording - vinyl doesn't do widely dynamic and really loud very well, but what it does do well it does extremely well.
    CD can do wide dynamic, and really loud, but unfortunately the wide dynamic bit gets ignored, and really loud becomes the goal. In practise the wide dynamics are a bit of a non goer, as pretty well all recordings use compression in some form to lower the dynamics in the first place in order to make the recordings sound more natural. And it's been standard practise for more years than I've been around.
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    Yep. The MFSL CDs compared to the regular ones from the record shop usually show how bad they compressed it. I've heard a few of those that weren't great as well. I have some LPs that were cut terribly too.

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    Why on earth would you want to do that
    Music , fills the gaps between silence !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    Why on earth would you want to do that
    Straightforwardly:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

    In depth:

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-ad...e-loudness-war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    Why on earth would you want to do that
    Do what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Do what?
    digitizes their vinyl..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    digitizes their vinyl..
    Because the mastering's often better than the CD counterpart.
    If you've recorded from the LP it then makes sense to stick it on yer server if you do streaming, and to burn CDs if you don't. Saves on wear and tear on the vinyl rig/software.
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