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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Can you borrow a known good alternative for comparison? A poor SUT can be disastrous for the sound. Yours may be OK, but it's worth checking.

    There is possibly a way to check its influence. Use the MC direct into the MM input without the SUT. You'll have to turn the volume up a lot higher, but you should get enough sound. If it sounds way better, then the SUT is suspect.
    Unfortunately I have no alternative source for the SUT. Would comparing SUT into MM with going straight into MC reveal the quality of SUT?
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    discarding the coils for now and Using the mc input, I think its marked down as 100 ohms but Ive heard it likes a lot more when not using coils.. try different ones and see at least its easy to do on the emotiva. if using mm it only runs at the usual mm load.
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    Marco, the boss, is an expert on the 103 so you can always ask him if you want extra info
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Using the mc input, I think its marked down as 100 ohms but Ive heard it likes a lot more when not using coils.. try different ones and see at least its easy to do on the emotiva. if using mm it only runs at the usual mm load.
    Will play around for sure. Some people claim that DL-103 via SUT into MM is a completely different ballgame from DL-103 direct into MC. I guess I'll also test that theory while I'm at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Would comparing SUT into MM with going straight into MC reveal the quality of SUT?
    Yes it should. It will certainly do no harm to try without SUT. You may not get loud volume, but if what you can hear is noticeably cleaner and clearer, then it's the SUT that is clouding things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Marco, the boss, is an expert on the 103 so you can always ask him if you want extra info
    Good to know. I'm learning that DL-103 seems to be a special little cartridge. It certainly is making my stereo sound different than anything I've ever listened to. Last night comparing Bach on CD to Bach through DL-103 was interesting. On the CD the musicians sound very polite, all buttoned up, almost as if walking on eggshells. On the turntable they sound raunchy, almost heavy metal/punk, playing with such gusto and abandonment. Haha, I'd attribute that to DL-103! (or, to my vivid imagination
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Yes it should. It will certainly do no harm to try without SUT. You may not get loud volume, but if what you can hear is noticeably cleaner and clearer, then it's the SUT that is clouding things.
    Valid point. Will definitely check it out. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Yes it should. It will certainly do no harm to try without SUT. You may not get loud volume, but if what you can hear is noticeably cleaner and clearer, then it's the SUT that is clouding things.
    It should run the 103 loud enough. its got the gain for it I think. Trying a higher load should help a lot .. its inclined to be slightly muffled at 100 in comparison Ive been told. Marco has been using all kinds of 103's foryears so will tell you what to do to get best out of it.
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    It should run the 103 loud enough. its got the gain for it I think. Trying a higher load should help a lot .. its inclined to be slightly muffled at 100 in comparison Ive been told. Marco has been using all kinds of 103's foryears so will tell you what to do to get best out of it.
    I've checked with my dealer, he claims 103 is showing its best colours at 1,000 ohm.
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    sounds good to me. not sure what the emotiva's switches are now so pick the closest i guess either side of 1k
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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