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Thread: Pro-Ject Phono Box USB V or Emotiva XPS-1?

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    I am using Systemdek turntable with Denon DL-103 moving coil cartridge mounted on Rega RB300 tonearm. The signal goes into a step-up transformer (SUT) and then into Pro-Ject Phono Box USB V MM stage. I was wondering if replacing Pro-Ject Phono Box USB V with Emotiva XPS-1 would improve the sound quality? Has anyone tried these two phono preamps?
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    not had the project but I do run the Emotiva XPS-1. Top class stage for little money. does mm and is a very good mc too with selesctable gubbins Its been my best buy for a while now. Ive had dearer but none any better.

    PS Alex, you need to show your location in the box somewhere.. ta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    not had the project but I do run the Emotiva XPS-1. Top class stage for little money. does mm and is a very good mc too with selesctable gubbins Its been my best buy for a while now. Ive had dearer but none any better.

    PS Alex, you need to show your location in the box somewhere.. ta.
    Thanks Grant. Did Emotiva XPS-1 take a lot of time to break in?

    P.S. I've added my location, as you've asked...
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    What SUT are you using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    What SUT are you using?
    No name SUT hand built by my dealer (with matching DIY looks
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Thanks Grant. Did Emotiva XPS-1 take a lot of time to break in?

    P.S. I've added my location, as you've asked...
    Thanks..
    ..was pretty good out of box Alex, but did improve a bit too over a week or 3. Used to have a schiit before and before that a firebottle, then before that a whest. My search for a stage is now ended with this. Its also very nicely built.
    Regards,
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Thanks..
    ..was pretty good out of box Alex, but did improve a bit too over a week or 3. Used to have a schiit before and before that a firebottle, then before that a whest. My search for a stage is now ended with this. Its also very nicely built.
    Good to hear, Grant. My Emotiva XPS-1 just arrived, will be doing a bit of A/B testing vis-à-vis Project. Hopefully Emotiva outperforms Project (I would hate to have to send XPS-1 back...)

    Will keep you posted on my sound impressions (always extremely unreliable, btw)
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    try it on mc as well as using your Tx coils. no idea how it will perform with the denon. Its an odd cart. needs a lot of weight in the headshell i believe
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    No name SUT hand built by my dealer (with matching DIY looks
    Can you borrow a known good alternative for comparison? A poor SUT can be disastrous for the sound. Yours may be OK, but it's worth checking.

    There is possibly a way to check its influence. Use the MC direct into the MM input without the SUT. You'll have to turn the volume up a lot higher, but you should get enough sound. If it sounds way better, then the SUT is suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    try it on mc as well as using your Tx coils
    Will do. What impedance do you think works the best for Denon DL-103?
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