Wikieaks release some 'interesting' information...

[Gazjam]

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...ity-of-the-cia
Anyone else read about this?

I have a Samsung Smart TV, but dont use any of the online stuff.
Went deep into the settings and was genuinely taken back by the ammount of Consent tickboxes for 3rd party data companies which were ticked by default.

Including the voice control built into the telly....reading the long Terms and Conditions for that was a doozy.

'You consent to your understanding that sensitive or private information picked up by the system may be inadvertantly sent to various 3rd parties."

...Spent 10 minutes unticking every consent box I could find.

[struth]

Yeah, i was reading that yesterday Gary. Guess its modern day life. Everyone is spying on everyone. Somehow i doubt they would be interested in my wind breaking excersises
Big brother indeed has been around for years and gets more insideous each year. Tis sad

[walpurgis]

I have no 'smart' devices. But this is not really much to worry about in any case. Where are the millions of people that would be needed full time to intelligently monitor the other millions using smart devices? They don't exist! Computerised monitoring would have to be very specific as to what it looked for. Any surveillance would need to be targeted very directly at subjects of interest or it would have too little discrimination to be of much use.

The smart device thing would just add to what goes on now. Full time spying on communications has been going on for years in any case. There are aircraft flying over areas of interest every day, more or less all day long, surveilling WiFi, radio and other communications signals. There are such planes based at RAF Northolt in west London. If you know what to look for they are easy to spot. It's no conspiracy theory nonsense either. It's happening.

http://www.spyflight.co.uk/defender.htm

[struth]

None of my tvs are smart either. Ive got apple and amazon tv but not sure they can do much bar show what i watch etc, . Stick something over a webcam is a wise thing..they can be vurnerable, if your worried. Dare say they will get more info from messages etc on phones, although ios and google say they wont cooperate with gov depts re allowing access. Your internet supplier has to keep 6 months of your usage by law i think so thats going to be of more use maybe.

[Sherwood]

I have no 'smart' devices. But this is not really much to worry about in any case. Where are the millions of people that would be needed full time to intelligently monitor the other millions using smart devices? They don't exist! Computerised monitoring would have to be very specific as to what it looked for. Any surveillance would need to be targeted very directly at subjects of interest or it would have too little discrimination to be of much use.

The smart device thing would just add to what goes on now. Full time spying on communications has been going on for years in any case. There are aircraft flying over areas of interest every day, more or less all day long, surveilling WiFi, radio and other communications signals. There are such planes based at RAF Northolt in west London. If you know what to look for they are easy to spot. It's no conspiracy theory nonsense either. It's happening.

http://www.spyflight.co.uk/defender.htm

You are right not to worry. I would be more concerned about that t-shirt you are wearing. And isn't it time you did the vacuuming and the dishes! Nice wallpaper though!

[Gazjam]

You are right not to worry. I would be more concerned about that t-shirt you are wearing. And isn't it time you did the vacuuming and the dishes! Nice wallpaper though!

Ha!

Part of life as you say Grant...but how the hell did we sleepwalk into it so easy?
We like our shiny gadgets I guess...

Not worried, just that the stuff thats being going on for years is coming out publicly.
Aint human nature wonderful?

[the little audio company]

But I wonder how many people would have bought their Samsung TV if they knew about this beforehand? I certainly wouldn't (I personally wouldn't buy a Samsung anyway), as your home should be the one place where you shouldn't have to worry about prying eyes and violations of your privacy. Personally, I think this is wrong on a massive scale. I know this sort of thing goes on on a daily basis in other areas of our lives, but if you're out in public, you expect (and accept) cameras, you expect to be vulnerable and open to scrutiny, and maybe even where you work, but not in your own home.

[Macca]

If your up to no good then you need to be careful, there are always ways around surveillance.

Otherwise what does it matter? Any hidden microphone in my house would only pick up the telly or the stereo. Or me talking to the cat, when I had a cat.

He rarely talked back, mind. I wonder if he knew something?

Anyway apart from improving some CIA operative's taste in music I can't see what the benefit to them or indeed the problem for me would be.

[Gazjam]

Thing is...

"Nobody needs to justify why they "need" a right: the burden of justification falls on the one
seeking to infringe upon the right.

Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide,
is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say"

[Macca]

True, Gaz, true. But I don't personally believe in the concept of having the 'right' to anything. We have what we can take, and what we can keep others from taking from us. That's it. Everything else is words on a document or in a book and they are sod all use when someone is breaking your rice bowl.