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    Quote Originally Posted by icehockeyboy View Post
    Fwiw, Dr Amar Bose claimed that at a concert, 89.9% of sound was reflected, and 10.1 % directional.
    And herein lies the issue with the thinking of Bose 'direct/reflecting' speakers, concert halls sound awesome, loads of reverb, the room designed to make sound, whilst our living rooms, box angles & small space have a very different impact.

    ...maybe it's why they sounded better in huge rooms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
    95% of cost in the speakers
    There's no need to spend more than a couple of £hundred on any other single item.
    It sounds jaw-droppingly good.

    -- excluding vinyl, I don't do that any more
    From what I've seen from the Philips Black Tulip series they are seem to be an 'understated statement' i.e. they look very nicely designed inside, bit plain outside, & a step above from their usual ranges. Have you had any other amps around the price of these that you've preferred? Seems to me that you've found some great gear full stop rather than price dictating it. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yomanze View Post
    And herein lies the issue with the thinking of Bose 'direct/reflecting' speakers, concert halls sound awesome, loads of reverb, the room designed to make sound, whilst our living rooms, box angles & small space have a very different impact.

    ...maybe it's why they sounded better in huge rooms.
    There is also the point that in a concert hall they are making the recording, in the home we are playing back the recording, not creating our own live performance in a different venue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Oops - my mistake! I didn't use their on-line calculator correctly.

    £120 in 1974 is, according to the Bank of England, equivalent to £1,148 today. So about 4% of a typical salary today.

    Another inflation calculator returned a value of £1,310.
    haha, I didn't want to doubt those clever banking people but it didn't sound right to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    In that respect, it might be useful to ask how much you have spent on 'software' and how much on the 'hardware'.
    Right, back to the fag packet. All costings are approximate and assume £10 per disc; ie ignoring variations such as valuable/collectable items and stuff bought for £1 in a charity shop, we get about £40,000 on software (1,000 LPs and 3,000 CDs) and £20,000 on hardware (over two systems). That's a lot of money, but spread over 35 years, it's still a lot of money.

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    Out of pocket I probably only have around 5k in what's currently set up in hardware. Everything I own combined I have no idea.

    I don't even want to know what the value of the software is. I could probably buy a private island. It would take years to unload it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    Right, back to the fag packet. All costings are approximate and assume £10 per disc; ie ignoring variations such as valuable/collectable items and stuff bought for £1 in a charity shop, we get about £40,000 on software (1,000 LPs and 3,000 CDs) and £20,000 on hardware (over two systems). That's a lot of money, but spread over 35 years, it's still a lot of money.
    I used an average of £7.50 per disc. Also I underestimated the size of my collection. With the revised figures both the software and hardware (spread over two systems, with plenty of redundancy) each cost ~ £20K. A little better, but you have the healthier (and more sensible) software/hardware expenditure ratio.
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    At a rough estimate. I have around £10k (that I spent) in Hi-Fi. Mind you that includes loads of component parts and currently unused gear.

    Gawd knows what the record and CD collection is worth. What with Pink Floyd and Moody Blues etc., albums going for hundreds. And I have most of the later sixties and earlier seventies classic (not classical ) stuff on original release albums. Probably enough to retire on.................Hmm. Hang on. I am retired!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I used an average of £7.50 per disc. Also I underestimated the size of my collection. With the revised figures both the software and hardware (spread over two systems, with plenty of redundancy) each cost ~ £20K. A little better, but you have the healthier (and more sensible) software/hardware expenditure ratio.
    There's only so many records you can listen to in a lifetime, and streaming arguably makes it irrelevant anyway. Anyone can have access to tens of thousands of albums for a monthly subscription.
    They may be emotional and financial assets, and there will always be some music that is not available on line, otherwise the purely practical advantages of owning a vast record collection are diminishing fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    There's only so many records you can listen to in a lifetime, and streaming arguably makes it irrelevant anyway. Anyone can have access to tens of thousands of albums for a monthly subscription.
    They may be emotional and financial assets, and there will always be some music that is not available on line, otherwise the purely practical advantages of owning a vast record collection are diminishing fast.
    Some practical advantages will always be there. It means I can go out to buy records, it drives the wife nuts cos she. can't clean it and it looks better than a raspberry pi!

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