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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebottle View Post
    Well I'm afraid this might not be what folk want to hear. The buffer is SO neutral that I cannot tell a difference with it being in circuit or not.

    I have tried a couple of lower ranking CD players, Philips CD-610-II and CD-713.
    Oh 🤔 daft question, are you running in your Firebottle gear ?

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    Yes Oliver, the rest of the system is very neutral/transparent.

    I've tried the buffer with the Firebottle phono section and the aforementioned CDP's as input, feeding either the line stage of the KIN then Monoblocks, or the latest EL84 SE amp then into the ESL57's.

    All sounds rather spiffing old chap

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    If you have a CD player that you don't care about you can take out the output transistors, and use that to bump it back up to line level. That's how I usually do it. I've never heard much difference unless you add a little gain.

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    Mine uses the mu-vista 6112 tubes and its impedences are 470k Ohm input, and 33 Ohm output if thats any help. Certainly adds a touch of life to some things
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    Mine is made from parts scavenged out of the mic preamp from an Ampex 960. It's not technically a buffer. I don't remember the impedences. I'll have to pull it out of the CD player and check it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebottle View Post
    Yes Oliver, the rest of the system is very neutral/transparent.

    I've tried the buffer with the Firebottle phono section and the aforementioned CDP's as input, feeding either the line stage of the KIN then Monoblocks, or the latest EL84 SE amp then into the ESL57's.

    All sounds rather spiffing old chap
    Oooo exciting!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebottle View Post
    Yes Oliver, the rest of the system is very neutral/transparent.

    I've tried the buffer with the Firebottle phono section and the aforementioned CDP's as input, feeding either the line stage of the KIN then Monoblocks, or the latest EL84 SE amp then into the ESL57's.

    All sounds rather spiffing old chap
    Would you notice the effect as much if its it already on a valve based system ?

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    probably more noticable between valve pre and ss power
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    probably more noticable between valve pre and ss power
    I was thinking that. In the signal path of a CDP to SS AMP would show its effects more so.

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    Good thing is it isn't having a detrimental effect on Alan's gear

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