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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Best really not too use mainsblock for power amps, they are best plugged into mains socket and in the case of monoblocks each with a good power cable preferably 4mm.
    That would be the ideal but at present I have to perform extreme yoga to reach the hidden sockets on either side of the room. Not easy with my spinal injury. They have been powered on continuously for the last month!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    That would be the ideal but at present I have to perform extreme yoga to reach the hidden sockets on either side of the room. Not easy with my spinal injury. They have been powered on continuously for the last month!
    Sorry to hear that it's difficult for you Geoff. I did my back in some time back so I know how tricky it can be unplugging stuff etc. Then maybe a really good mains block dedicated to the power amps would be best option as suggested by Marco, or two mains blocks. One for the power amps and one for the rest of your gear

    I have done quite a bit of experimenting myself recently after using monoblocks and found that they certainly did not sound great with one plugged into a mains block and the other plugged into a wall socket. I put some more sockets in and a dedicated mains cable to each amp and the difference was not insignificant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    That would be the ideal but at present I have to perform extreme yoga to reach the hidden sockets on either side of the room. Not easy with my spinal injury. They have been powered on continuously for the last month!
    Something like this may help? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brennenstuh...et+with+switch

    If not, you can get a remote controlled block - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Energenie-T...trol+extension or individual sockets - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Energenie-R...EEMFPQZFTJ5C32
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Won't the regenerator get rid of this?
    Ah soz, didn't realise you had a regen unit. In that case ok, although the filter I linked to earlier would do a better job of sorting out the noisiest stuff. Just to clarify then, so I know exactly what you're using, could you list all your kit, which you intend to plug into the new block(s)...

    Also, how many sockets does your regen unit have - and do you have any sockets connected to a dedicated mains spur? Once I know that, I'll advise you on what I'd buy and how I'd connect it all up

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    Ok, I have six sockets on a radial circuit dedicated to home entertainment. I can easily add another two.

    On one double socket (the first in the circuit) I have a time switch running a battery charger for my Anker battery that powers my Caiman DAC (this comes on from 1am until 9am everyday, and is deliberately set outside of normal listening hours).
    The other socket powers my AG1500. This currently has an IEC power lead directly connected to my power amp (but this will have to change next week, as there will be two Firebottle monoblock amps here). The Schuko socket then feeds the power strip, which contains connections for the Firebottle KIN pre-amp, Graham Slee headphone amp run from a PSU1, Long Dog Audio PSU for the Techie, MJ Acoustics Pro 50 subwoofer, and finally my Pioneer PD-S703 CD player.
    All of the HiFi is run through the regenerator, as I like the convenience of being able to power it all down easily, plus it gives me a consistent power feed, and has stopped the humming toroidals in the power amps.
    At the moment, it is fed through standard Schuko kettle leads, but I have an aftermarket lead arriving next week, which I was planning to try on the regenerator or pre-amp.

    The double socket next to the HiFi one is empty.

    The last double socket has a Sony 32" LCD TV and a ZGemma H2S satellite receiver plugged into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Sorry to hear that it's difficult for you Geoff. I did my back in some time back so I know how tricky it can be unplugging stuff etc. Then maybe a really good mains block dedicated to the power amps would be best option as suggested by Marco, or two mains blocks. One for the power amps and one for the rest of your gear

    I have done quite a bit of experimenting myself recently after using monoblocks and found that they certainly did not sound great with one plugged into a mains block and the other plugged into a wall socket. I put some more sockets in and a dedicated mains cable to each amp and the difference was not insignificant!
    Yes, my house is new build so I can certainly dedicate one or more socketa to the power amps. The problem is that my Maggies are quite large panels and it is difficult to reach around them the the power sockets. I have some Bye Bye Standby Energy Saving Sockets with programmable remotes that I use for uplighters and the like. Would these compromise the performance of mu power amps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    Yes, my house is new build so I can certainly dedicate one or more socketa to the power amps. The problem is that my Maggies are quite large panels and it is difficult to reach around them the the power sockets. I have some Bye Bye Standby Energy Saving Sockets with programmable remotes that I use for uplighters and the like. Would these compromise the performance of mu power amps?
    I am not sure I would plug my amps into those as they could compromise performance, best to go for unswitched sockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Ok, I have six sockets on a radial circuit dedicated to home entertainment. I can easily add another two.

    On one double socket (the first in the circuit) I have a time switch running a battery charger for my Anker battery that powers my Caiman DAC (this comes on from 1am until 9am everyday, and is deliberately set outside of normal listening hours).
    The other socket powers my AG1500. This currently has an IEC power lead directly connected to my power amp (but this will have to change next week, as there will be two Firebottle monoblock amps here). The Schuko socket then feeds the power strip, which contains connections for the Firebottle KIN pre-amp, Graham Slee headphone amp run from a PSU1, Long Dog Audio PSU for the Techie, MJ Acoustics Pro 50 subwoofer, and finally my Pioneer PD-S703 CD player.
    All of the HiFi is run through the regenerator, as I like the convenience of being able to power it all down easily, plus it gives me a consistent power feed, and has stopped the humming toroidals in the power amps.
    At the moment, it is fed through standard Schuko kettle leads, but I have an aftermarket lead arriving next week, which I was planning to try on the regenerator or pre-amp.

    The double socket next to the HiFi one is empty.

    The last double socket has a Sony 32" LCD TV and a ZGemma H2S satellite receiver plugged into it.
    Hi Kev, I have just been experimenting with power sockets etc for my Croft monoblocks and to be honest they were best plugged into the same double unswitched socket. Also maybe try some beefed up 4mm power cables for you monoblocks.I had one mono amp on a block which also fed other stuff and one into the wall and they sounded slightly unbalanced to me, mind you it also had a kettle cable on it at the time. As with all my equipment I have gone for screened mains cables and tried to keep them as cleanly fed as possible. Adding another spur socket at the weekend with a nice silver plated double socket has helped even more.

    Marcos suggestion of sockets etc is good but also consider the possibility of cooker sockets wired on a board with its own fuse box which is then wired back to you CU. No fuses to worry about.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    Yes, my house is new build so I can certainly dedicate one or more socketa to the power amps. The problem is that my Maggies are quite large panels and it is difficult to reach around them the the power sockets. I have some Bye Bye Standby Energy Saving Sockets with programmable remotes that I use for uplighters and the like. Would these compromise the performance of mu power amps?
    Have a look at the extension block with remote switch I linked to in post 13. This is probably less of a compromise than the remote controlled plugs.
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    Thanks for the suggestions. Will check out the options. However, I am hoping to return to long term overseas work soon so do not want to invest in any house rewiring options.

    Geoff

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