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Thread: Mains blocks, power strips (or whatever you want to call them) of the Schuko type.

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    I'm Kevin.

    Default Mains blocks, power strips (or whatever you want to call them) of the Schuko type.

    I am currently using one of these http://www.apc.com/shop/uk/en/produc...K/P-PF8VNT3-UK to connect my components to the power. Having read that the noise filter can kill the dynamics, I am looking at something more suitable.
    One of these looks like a good idea to me - http://www.brennenstuhl.com/index.php?module=products&index[products][action]=details&index[products][category]=94&index[products][data][products_id]=1433 It's gpoing to cost me €36 delivered.

    The question is, is it worth spending more on something like a Supra LoRad block, a Silver plated version of the Brennenstuhl block, getting Mark Grant or Wychwood Audionics to make me up a Schuko block?
    It is going to be connected to my AG1500, so I have no need of noise filters or surge/spike protection.
    Kevin

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    The Brennenstuhl will likely offer the highest SPPV, Kev. It all depends on your budget and how 'serious' you are about this stuff.

    However, if you want as close to the best as possible, to do it *right* and box it off as 'job done', then get Mark to build you a Schuko version of one of his blocks, as the attention to detail he puts in with soldering and star-earthing, etc, pays dividends.

    Then if you combine that with one of his mains filters (for your digital components), see here: https://markgrant.co.uk/mains-filter...er-schuko.html then short of hard-wiring from the incoming mains supply, you'll have the ultimate solution.

    Honestly, it really makes a difference separating your digital gear (all the 'noisy' bits) from your analogue stuff, rather than plugging everything into the one block, and you'll easily hear the results. If you can't stretch to the cost of the filter, then I'd recommend that you go for two mains blocks (perhaps a 4 and a 2-way), and separate it out that way.

    Anyway, good luck and if I can advise you further, let me know

    Marco.
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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    Marco, thanks for the response.
    The only mains powered digital component is my CD player, which rarely ever gets turned on. I could plug this directly into the wall in a spare socket.

    I'll need 5 analogue sockets...
    Kevin

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    Ah ok, so you don't have anything else that uses a switch-mode power supply? Any AV/TV stuff, or anything of that nature, which is used in line with your hi-fi system, is just as noisy as a CDP....

    Essentially, ALL you want plugged into your 'audiophile mains block' is the stuff you value the sound of most. Everything else should be relegated to wall sockets and/or separate blocks

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    The HiFi runs off a Power Inspired AG1500. On the same mains circuit I do have a TV and satellite box etc.
    I never get any clicks or pops from mains interference through the speakers.
    Kevin

    Too busy enjoying the music....

    European loan coordinator for Graham Slee HiFi system components..

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    It's not about clicks or pops, mate; it's about how those types of things chuck noise into the main supply, generating distortion that superimposes itself on the music - and you can't hear it until you get rid of it!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Won't the regenerator get rid of this?
    Kevin

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    I have a question. I am looking for a good mains distribution block for my monoblock power amps. I am not looking for any fancy filtering or surge suppression. However, it would be helpful if I could get one with a remote control to power off as the monoblocks themselves are somewhat inaccessible. Are there units available which do no affect sound quality when in use. Belkin used to do a UK unit but seem to have discontinued production

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Ener.../dp/B003WK62XO

    Geoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    I have a question. I am looking for a good mains distribution block for my monoblock power amps. I am not looking for any fancy filtering or surge suppression. However, it would be helpful if I could get one with a remote control to power off as the monoblocks themselves are somewhat inaccessible. Are there units available which do no affect sound quality when in use. Belkin used to do a UK unit but seem to have discontinued production

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Ener.../dp/B003WK62XO

    Geoff
    Best really not too use mainsblock for power amps, they are best plugged into mains socket and in the case of monoblocks each with a good power cable preferably 4mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Won't the regenerator get rid of this?
    Ive a big Belkin filter and distribution box after my regen to remove anything. Seems to be the right combo as its improved the sound
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