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    You are talking about personal preference.
    You cannot judge a musical genius or anyone else for that matter by using what you enjoy as an argument.
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    Ah but that is the problem with any Hi-Fi/music discussion isn't it...? I know what I like (geddit) as does everyone else and never the twain shall meet. That is one of the reasons I keep my music friends very close because we share the same passion. We are stirred emotionally by very similar things. We adore the intricacy of playing in Prog Rock because these guys show off so well and make the whole concept just so easy in the same way classical music is about openly showing off the skills of the composer and the virtuoso playing the piece. The similarities are striking but a lot of Prog Rock contains the most amazing melodies and hook lines. Also, for me, it is about never playing in 4/4 time

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    I think that it is possible to distinguish between the subjective (personal preferences) and the objective (technical proficiency). My coolness regarding much progrock is that it is technically proficient but (for me) lacks emotion so that I cannot connect with it in the way I would with other genres. Totally subjective, but isn't that the point of music: to find a point of engagement and immersion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimkasta View Post
    You are talking about personal preference.
    You cannot judge a musical genius or anyone else for that matter by using what you enjoy as an argument.
    Oh yes I can!! I can consider many composers as mere journeymen or women and not genius at all. This is very clearly influenced by the fact that I like them or not. The fact that others consider them a genius has no relevance in my reality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Steadman View Post
    Oh yes I can!! I can consider many composers as mere journeymen or women and not genius at all. This is very clearly influenced by the fact that I like them or not. The fact that others consider them a genius has no relevance in my reality!
    Well personal reality does not particularly help in a constructive discussion about objective facts, does it?
    There's no arguement that can reply constructively to "I do not like 4/4s and Beethoven is not a genius because I find him boring and that's my reallity"

    We have to find some middle ground that we all can work with.

    For example I can say that I find baroque silly because I have connected it with 80s erotic movies. That's my reallity. That does not make Geminiani any less awesome
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    I have the first 3 AP albums still.

    The 1st was one of those albums that Radio Caroline /mi amigo whatever used to play all the time. I loved it then and I loves it now.

    The 2nd and 3rd albums I bought because I loved the 1st though interest was decreasing,

    I've picked up played and returned most of the rest of their output to the carboot.

    As for Eye of the Sky I regret to say it just bores me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimkasta View Post
    Well personal reality does not particularly help in a constructive discussion about objective facts, does it?
    There's no arguement that can reply constructively to "I do not like 4/4s and Beethoven is not a genius because I find him boring and that's my reallity"

    We have to find some middle ground that we all can work with.

    For example I can say that I find baroque silly because I have connected it with 80s erotic movies. That's my reallity. That does not make Geminiani any less awesome
    Here lies the problem with subjective judgement!

    It is actually impossible to have a constructive discussion. It just goes round and round.

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    Just arrived chez moi, the remastered box set (11?) of Alan Parsons Project cd's.
    Have not listened yet!

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    Takes all tastes fortunately, or we would all maybe be listening to john denver
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Takes all tastes fortunately, or we would all maybe be listening to john denver
    When I said play any song .......

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