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Thread: Mission 774 on a Logic DM 101...advise, possible improvements for the arm ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Haha that's genius
    What else would you expect?


    If you decide to check that out, be careful. Some of the pillows are just filled with expanded polystyrene beads. It's the softer Polyurethane pellets you want. Last time I saw some of these cushions was in Tesco. Lidl have had them too. The filler may even be available on ebay.
    Mr. Tact!

    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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    Yes, in honesty I have no idea what filling it word do but as I have a spare and as I'm in for another spare I thought I could get away with wrecking one lol. It's a bit of trial and error to learn more about this fabulous arm.

    PS , this mission arm in the right hands is pretty much unbeatable for realistic money. IMO.

    Walpurgis is the AOS 774 expert. Maybe he can chip in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    What else would you expect? sign:


    If you decide to check that out, be careful. Some of the pillows are just filled with expanded polystyrene beads. It's the softer Polyurethane pellets you want. Last time I saw some of these cushions was in Tesco. Lidl have had them too. The filler may even be available on ebay.
    What do you think would be the biggest effect to filling the wand ?

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    Hi Geoff,
    as my 774 is reported to be on the way to here tomorrow,
    I started my thread as suggested by you.

    I'm curious how far the 101 can be taken, particularly in view of tweaking the 774.
    I have an LP12 with a Sole subchassis & an old Ekos that AO cared for with new inner cable and a bearing fine-tune & an ok-ish Lingo PS.
    This LP12 will act as some kind of 'status-quo' to see where I am at with the DM 101, and it will have the same Troika as the 101,
    so it'll be a real direct comparison between the Linn+ arm vs. the Logic + 774 w/o the cart as a source of misinterpretations. (as I think is not uncommon as the cart makes up for huge differences

    As you are the man for the 774...are there any typical main weak spots in the original and a bit aged/used Mission that result in big sonic progress when treated ?

    Kind regards, T
    Last edited by torstoi; 12-02-2017 at 03:20.

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    Ok, you asked for pictures...this is mine coming in non-original, but still very nice packing:

    http://prntscr.com/e68wdg

    And, while we're here, I shall also go ahead for the silliest picture post in 2017 in quite an early homerun.
    Here we go..

    http://prntscr.com/e68xii

    Show this picture to any arm specialist.
    The one who tells you that's a packed 774 is your man..

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    That first box looks familiar. I have three of them in front of me on the shelf.
    Mr. Tact!

    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    I like NS1000's BTW
    Yeah, well...I took a short cut before catching even more comments of THAT sort..

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    That first box looks familiar. I have three of them in front of me on the shelf.
    ...containing what ?
    Please don't say 774's..

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    Quote Originally Posted by torstoi View Post
    Ok, you asked for pictures...this is mine coming in non-original, but still very nice packing:

    http://prntscr.com/e68wdg

    And, while we're here, I shall also go ahead for the silliest picture post in 2017 in quite an early homerun.
    Here we go..

    http://prntscr.com/e68xii

    Show this picture to any arm specialist.
    The one who tells you that's a packed 774 is your man..
    It's beautiful !!!!!! I love this tonearm.

    Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
    Mission 774 OG Tonearm > Toshiba SR 370 Turntable > ZYX R50 Bloom cartridge > Firebottle OTP Phono Stage > Firebottle Monoblocks > Fisual Hollywood Speaker Cables > Pioneer CS-77A Speakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by torstoi View Post
    As you are the man for the 774...are there any typical main weak spots in the original and a bit aged/used Mission that result in big sonic progress when treated ?

    Kind regards, T
    The 774 sounds very fine in standard form, but popular mods are an internal rewire and a new dual coax to the phono stage. If you try any of this, take great care with the mini plug. It comes apart (be gentle with it) for soldering work, but won't stand too much heat. Other changes can be damping the arm tube by covering with heat shrink sleeving or (and?) filling the tube with damping material. I also drilled my head block (headshell) through to use long bolts. Not everybody chooses to do this if they want to retain originality.
    Mr. Tact!

    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

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