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Thread: Rothwell atenuator's - a quick fix?

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    Default Rothwell atenuator's - a quick fix?

    Firstly, happy xmas everyone, if you are all like me, no doubt you are currently experiencing advanced mobid obesity, an are slightly tipsy... Happy days!

    Anyway, I'm wondering if these might be a tempory fix just purly to give me more control over the volume at lower levels
    anyone got any experience of them?

    http://www.rothwellaudioproducts.co....tenuators.html
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    They're fine for the short term and not too expensive. But I'd try to get the gain reduced rather than padding down what's there in the long term, while checking the output impedance isn't too high. Again, specially configured "L" pad attenuators would probably be ok as long as they matched the circuit properly. the Rothwell is a generalist attenuator so *may* not be perfect for the solution you need...

    If the valves are in the audio output stage, it may be possible to source some lower gain alternatives. there are others better qualified on here who could help I'm sure...
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    I dont know if its correct for me to say this but have a look at these:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/14db-HIFI-Atte...item45f009306c

    These are the ones I make and sell.

    They are good at what they do but they are not a universal fix. If you use a valve pre or integrated or passive pre amp you can end up with problems. They work best with solid state amps where you tend to have an active input stage.
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    It would def be a temporary fix as I said, I'm sure there is a better solution, but this just seems a good idea to tide me over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalsea View Post
    I dont know if its correct for me to say this but have a look at these:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/14db-HIFI-Atte...item45f009306c

    These are the ones I make and sell.

    They are good at what they do but they are not a universal fix. If you use a valve pre or integrated or passive pre amp you can end up with problems. They work best with solid state amps where you tend to have an active input stage.
    cheeper too!
    Can I buy some then? Shall I do it through eBay?
    Fir £15 I don't mind if there is a better solution just round the corner, as much as anything else it will show hannah that this dac is not a bad idea
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    Hi, Hamish.

    I have PM'ed you as I am not sure what the policy is in regards to sales on here.

    Paul.
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    I thought they were crap when I tried them in my headphone based system. They simply softened & smeared the sound.

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    L Pads are available from here Hamish, this is what i used on my stats for the tweeter control
    https://www.wilmslow-audio.co.uk/cat...684908ea9acf59
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    With pads, it's important to keep a subsequent interconnect short, so if you're using the Rothwell type built into an connector, you should have them on the far end of your interconnect - ie at the pre-amp end - otherwise, you'll likely find severe treble roll-off, which is probably what Nigel exprienced above. I used to use pads between my ARC SP8 & Radford STA15

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    Shaun (Haselsh1) gave me a set of RCA ones which I found helpful to sort a problem I had. However I must be honest and say I have not as of yet done any A/B comparisons to see if there is a loss in quality. I use mine on a very high output tape out on my Bat pre...it prevents overload on the tape deck switching unit I have. This feeds a Revox R to R and a Nakamichi CR5e. Though its less of an issue now as I am running 4m long cables to these so the extra gain on the output is needed now.



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