Sat-Nav idiocy.... Blindly 'obeying' the machine.

[montesquieu]

We have a low railway bridge tucked under a left turn in our village. It gets hit occasionally but far more regularly the whole village gets brought to a halt by lorries having to turn, on one side this means turning up our hill, a very tight residential road (a traffic island with a lit bollard gets wiped out on a monthly basis by these idiots).

Total plonkers and I agree, if they cause mayhem from using a cheap car sat nav or a phone app they should have the book thrown at them.

[Marco]

Marco , Have you ever driven a 44 ton articulated HGV ?
I will ask this question before commenting further

Lol - what's that got to do with anything? If I did, I can assure you I wouldn't simultaneously lose my eyesight, powers of judgement and common sense overnight! Quite simply, there is no acceptable excuse whatsoever for the sheer idiocy being displayed here by the truck drivers in question.

Geoff's also right. If our roads aren't suitable for such vehicles, then such vehicles shouldn't be allowed on them in the first place - simples!

Marco.

[Audio Al]

There shouldn't be trucks that size on British roads.

These are on test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uocj309zvYE

[Audio Al]

Lol - what's that got to do with anything? If I did, I can assure you I wouldn't simultaneously lose my eyesight, powers of judgement and common sense overnight! Quite simply, there is no acceptable excuse whatsoever for the sheer idiocy being displayed here by the truck drivers in question.

Geoff's also right. If our roads aren't suitable for such vehicles, then such vehicles shouldn't be allowed on them in the first place - simples!

Marco.

You are commenting as a car driver , I am a HGV driver of 30 years standing , Go back to the days before sat navs and it was even worse , I have been diverted by the Police down a road that had a low bridge that I could not get under and had to reverse half a mile in the dark before I could turn round ( No signs ) when I got back to where the Police were I told them and they thought it was amusing and said " We better not send any more down then !! "

I have also been sent to an home address with a shipping contained 40 foot long in a residential housing estate , The family were immigrating , The customer wants you at his address , My company want the job done and piggy in the middle is left to sort it out , Talk about stress , Things are not easy for LGV drivers
Our trucks are fitted with Co pilot LGV sat navs and yes even after you enter the length width and height of your vehicle you can still end up in trouble , Road closures , diversions , map updates all play a part , SO NO HGV drivers are not twats more interested in texting

[struth]

Some are though. See plenty using phones etc while driving around here. I do agree that companies are in many cases to blame for demanding an employee do something that is dangerous or impossible or be sacked. Alas such is the way our life is as minions

[Marco]

You are commenting as a car driver , I am a HGV driver of 30 years standing , Go back to the days before sat navs and it was even worse , I have been diverted by the Police down a road that had a low bridge that I could not get under and had to reverse half a mile in the dark before I could turn round ( No signs ) when I got back to where the Police were I told them and they thought it was amusing and said " We better not send any more down then !! "

I have also been sent to an home address with a shipping contained 40 foot long in a residential housing estate , The family were immigrating , The customer wants you at his address , My company want the job done and piggy in the middle is left to sort it out , Talk about stress , Things are not easy for LGV drivers
Our trucks are fitted with Co pilot LGV sat navs and yes even after you enter the length width and height of your vehicle you can still end up in trouble , Road closures , diversions , map updates all play a part , SO NO HGV drivers are not twats more interested in texting

Ok, in your 30 years of HGV driving have you ever managed to hit a house, or any other such large object? 'Nuff said... So you're not the type of truck driver being targeted here.

Mistakes happen, for sure, which are out of your control (and some Police are idiots), but NONE OF THAT should end in the result of you crashing into someone's house!!! FFS, you MUST see the thing coming towards you before you hit it, unless you're asleep, or not paying proper attention to the road in front of you. That fact can't be disputed.

Quite simply, there is *NO* acceptable excuse whatsoever for hitting a bloody house, unless the truck concerned has suffered brake failure, skidded on ice, or the driver a heart attack or some such. When you're in charge of driving that size of vehicle, with the potential it has for causing death and destruction, on a huge scale, you must be 100% concentrated behind the wheel at all times!

Oh, and if the sat-nav or instructions you've been given are incorrect, then USE A FOOKING MAP and your common sense. After all, what did truckers (and everyone else) do before sat-navs were invented?

Most important of all, IF IN ANY DOUBT that where you're being told to go isn't safe or practical, DON"T GO THERE, and find somewhere safe to park and STAY PUT, until you receive alternative instructions, OR SIMPLY TURN ROUND AND GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM.

At the end of the day, whatever adverse repercussions occur from making that decision will pale into insignificance, compared with destroying someones house, closing roads down for hours, or worse, KILLING SOMEONE.

End of

Marco.

[montesquieu]

You are commenting as a car driver , I am a HGV driver of 30 years standing , Go back to the days before sat navs and it was even worse , I have been diverted by the Police down a road that had a low bridge that I could not get under and had to reverse half a mile in the dark before I could turn round ( No signs ) when I got back to where the Police were I told them and they thought it was amusing and said " We better not send any more down then !! "

I have also been sent to an home address with a shipping contained 40 foot long in a residential housing estate , The family were immigrating , The customer wants you at his address , My company want the job done and piggy in the middle is left to sort it out , Talk about stress , Things are not easy for LGV drivers
Our trucks are fitted with Co pilot LGV sat navs and yes even after you enter the length width and height of your vehicle you can still end up in trouble , Road closures , diversions , map updates all play a part , SO NO HGV drivers are not twats more interested in texting

Hmm map updates our village has a Norman church one end, military college (founded 1812) at the other and a Victorian railway line slicing through the middle ...


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[struth]

Edinburgh has lots of lanes that are just narrow walkways with steps between the old buildings. Sat nav used to insist you drive down these going back a bit mind, dunno if its like that now. Only fortunate thing about it was you couldnt get a car down there. But it shows how they get things wrong easily..oneway sts are another. I use google maps mostly if going somewhere i dont know but dont take its advice as fact.

[Audio Al]

Ok, in your 30 years of HGV driving have you ever managed to hit a house, or any other such large object? 'Nuff said... So you're not the type of truck driver being targeted here.

Mistakes happen, for sure, which are out of your control (and some Police are idiots), but NONE OF THAT should end in the result of you crashing into someone's house!!! FFS, you MUST see the thing coming towards you before you hit it, unless you're asleep, or not paying proper attention to the road in front of you. That fact can't be disputed.

Quite simply, there is *NO* acceptable excuse whatsoever for hitting a bloody house, unless the truck concerned has suffered brake failure, skidded on ice, or the driver a heart attack or some such. When you're in charge of driving that size of vehicle, with the potential it has for causing death and destruction, on a huge scale, you must be 100% concentrated behind the wheel at all times!

Oh, and if the sat-nav or instructions you've been given are incorrect, then USE A FOOKING MAP and your common sense. After all, what did truckers (and everyone else) do before sat-navs were invented?

Most important of all, IF IN ANY DOUBT that where you're being told to go isn't safe or practical, DON"T GO THERE, and find somewhere safe to park and STAY PUT, until you receive alternative instructions, OR SIMPLY TURN ROUND AND GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM.

At the end of the day, whatever adverse repercussions occur from making that decision will pale into insignificance, compared with destroying someones house, closing roads down for hours, or worse, KILLING SOMEONE.

End of

Marco.

Is this Marco law

Use a fooking map

its 3am where the fook do you buy a map , or are you suggesting I carry a truck load of fooking maps with me for every fooking destination I cover from Leeds down to Southampton

Typical Marco post

Car drivers are just as stupid

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ca...aO0buKNGrBM%3A

[Haselsh1]

I see 'they' are updating the UK driving test to test for competency in the use of a satnav...? What about my missus who is soon to take her test...? Will 'they' be testing her on map reading skills because we don't own a satnav and use maps...???