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    Default WTD : Tube Buffer

    Hi all,

    I'm interested in trying a tube buffer. No more than £100 Inc postage. Might pay a bit more if it comes with interconnects.

    Anyone got one squirrelled away gathering dust ??

    Oliver.

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    I recently bought an ifi itube its much better than my previous MF x10d v3 (which was good) but they go for a lot more than £100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    I recently bought an ifi itube its much better than my previous MF x10d v3 (which was good) but they go for a lot more than £100

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    Yes I've seen those. I'm now wondering if it's worth waiting and getting a bit more funds together first. 🤔

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    Ive got a MF x10d v3 which I upgraded. It is now a completely different beastie. Costa a fair bit extra but worth it. I now dont need an external dac.
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    What did you do grant ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    What did you do grant ?

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    Rock grotto upgrade Oliver. Got the parts and fitted them. sonically its way better than its original form, which was still very decent. its boutique diodes and capacitors. about £70 for bits. Also added some nice proper feet which helped a bit.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Yes I've seen those. I'm now wondering if it's worth waiting and getting a bit more funds together first. 🤔

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    My x10d v3 was upgraded by Rock Grotto plus I had the little pinkie PSU but I still prefer the itube in buffer only mode. It's a matter of taste of course.

    It also makes a great pre amp and has an interesting anti digititis mode, and a soundstage widening mode that works but is more a matter of taste. Downside is the pot has a channel imbalance at very low level (an issue with the model not just mine). Generally not a problem as its usually almost inaudible at that volume but I have a very high gain power amp (1000wpc at high input!) and do most of my listening nearfield late at night so it does affect me. I'd guess 95% of owners wouldn't use it at that level. I'm actually thinking of selling it on as I have bought an MF tri vista dac with output stage but I haven't made my mind up yet.

    The alternative is a chinese buffer like the Yaqin but I'm not sure its in the same league as either of these being discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    The alternative is a chinese buffer like the Yaqin but I'm not sure its in the same league as either of these being discussed.
    It isn't.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    no it isnt. not tried the itube. had a yaqin but this one is nice with my pioneer cd/dv player. it allowed me to lose the dac, so a box less.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    I haven't had the two at the same time so.hard to.compare but if I tried I.would.say the itube does what the x10 (upgraded) does but more. ie.better instrument seperation and.more front to back soundstaging. I remember keeping the x10 boxed up and getting it out occasionally but not hearing much difference. But at one point I got it out and never looked back. Could have been synergy with the new amp (restek challenger). Anyway when I got the itube I.noticed straight away so.its probably less subtle but.its so system dependent, and taste will differ between the amount of tubiness wanted. Anway I'm pleased I got the itube in the end. Im thinking vdac plus.itube might equal trivista*0.9 in my second system.

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