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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    . Ted reasoned that if differences in RF can degrade the sound, then RF can be modeled and shaped to improve the sound.
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    Was this Big Ted or Little Ted?

    What was Hamble's input?
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    If anyone wants to read the rest it's here:
    http://www.synergisticresearch.com/a...cs/atmosphere/

    BTW, this is the bit where it goes off the rails first:
    "...and came to the conclusion that man-made and solar RF must play a significant role." Must? Why must it?
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    assumptions make an ass of you and me.

    Anyone with half an ounce of knowse and recourse to graphene electrical resistivity measurements knows you can't make a fusible element out of it, it's too conductive, the different between a 1amp strip and 100 amp strip would be tiny. Also they need to connect it to the end caps and that requires mounting to metal and soldering. Maybe they roll a bit of fuse wire in charcoal dust but I do not for one naosecond believe they use graphene as the conductive/fusible element. It's just bullshit, as is their obfuscation of any reasoning behind the design.

    If you can't see that the marketing babble is just there to lead to the phrase 'night and day difference' by the use of relatively sharp NLP then you deserve to be fleeced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    At one of the NEBOs Les from Avondale gave a little talk where he explained how he 'voiced' (although I don't believe he used that exact term) his power amplifiers by using certain types of components i.e resistors etc of different construction and materials, and he likened this to a chef adding herbs and spices to a curry.
    And it's an apt analogy. Building a musically realistic/rewarding piece of equipment is akin to blending together a collection of 'flavours', in order to create a successful recipe. It's a process that applies to both chefs and audio designers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    assumptions make an ass of you and me.

    Anyone with half an ounce of knowse...
    What language is that, then? Not sure if I need any "knowse", but I'll take half a pound just to be polite

    Did you mean nous?

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    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

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    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    Here's some "info" from the website of one the fancy fuse manufacturers (about one of their other products):
    "So we began researching variables that could contribute to the mystery of midnight vs. mid-day system performance and came to the conclusion that man-made and solar RF must play a significant role. This led us to research of factors that contribute to fluctions in the Earth’s ambient RF environment. Ted reasoned that if differences in RF can degrade the sound, then RF can be modeled and shaped to improve the sound.
    There are three major disturbances on the Sun that affect radio propagation here on Earth. Solar Flares, Coronal Holes, and Sudden Disappearing Filament (SDF). Each disturbance causes both electromagnetic radiation and ejection of material from the Sun that alters RF on Earth. What we looked at was how each of these disturbances affects our RF environment during the day vs late at night with the intention to mimic late night conditions to improve sound mid-day..."

    And it goes on. Make of it what you will.
    Reads like a hifi company has been taken over by Scientologists.

    I must say I have very little patience with kit that needs capacators hand-rolled in the Japanese forest on the thighs of virgins suitably earthed against static build-up .... I'd personally rather they spent the dosh on better transformers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Building a musically realistic/rewarding piece of equipment is akin to blending together a collection of 'flavours', in order to create a successful recipe.
    I'd say it was more a task of balancing all the compromises that inevitably occur.

    Certainly for commercial operations cost is a major compromise, 'how much is that output transformer?!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebottle View Post
    I'd say it was more a task of balancing all the compromises that inevitably occur.
    Yes, just like following a recipe and balancing all the ingredients, so that the final 'dish' is tasty!

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    Here's some "info" from the website of one the fancy fuse manufacturers (about one of their other products):
    "So we began researching variables that could contribute to the mystery of midnight vs. mid-day system performance and came to the conclusion that man-made and solar RF must play a significant role. This led us to research of factors that contribute to fluctions in the Earth’s ambient RF environment. Ted reasoned that if differences in RF can degrade the sound, then RF can be modeled and shaped to improve the sound.
    There are three major disturbances on the Sun that affect radio propagation here on Earth. Solar Flares, Coronal Holes, and Sudden Disappearing Filament (SDF). Each disturbance causes both electromagnetic radiation and ejection of material from the Sun that alters RF on Earth. What we looked at was how each of these disturbances affects our RF environment during the day vs late at night with the intention to mimic late night conditions to improve sound mid-day..."

    And it goes on. Make of it what you will.
    Which Manufacturer said this bollocks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    Graphene fuse element, is it fuckers like.

    Maybe wire coated in Graphene powder...
    I literally have no idea how graphene in used in this fuse.
    Website certainly gives no indication.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
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