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    I am more than a little sceptical about this. Whilst I can understand the effects of long (0.5m >) cables, having a dedicated spur for each component etc, I fail to see how one 10mm length of fine wire can have any impact on sound compared to another 10mm bit of wire.

    Hmmm...
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    As you know Gaz I also use a BPS, which I leave on permenantly unless I go away for a few days. I went away recently, when I returned I turned on my BPS then immediately my Class A amp the internal fuses blew in the amp, that's six fuses. However, I have not had this problem before or since.
    Glad to found a good upgrade, take care of that fuse that is designed to burn (blow)
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    Gaz, would you indulge me?

    As you are technical and know what you are doing I propose a little experiment.
    Would you care to remove the fuse, solder a thick length of copper wire to the outside of the fuse clips and see if there is any difference to the sound.

    Before anyone jumps on me to say this is risky, yes I know, but for the short time this will take the risk is minimal.
    The pcb tracks only look to be rated at about 2A anyway

    Over to you .....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clifford.T Ward View Post
    If there is a scientific effect I'd be interested to see what members thought it might be

    for example

    better electrical conductivity
    some phenomena connected with the transmission of frequency
    an indirect effect on other components?
    Know that the fuse element is made from graphene, which has different electrical conductivity than normal metal in fuses?
    Could that make a difference?

    As always with me, its down to what I hear and this was a significant jump. more than any cable change as I said.
    Just putting it out there, works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign View Post
    As you know Gaz I also use a BPS, which I leave on permenantly unless I go away for a few days. I went away recently, when I returned I turned on my BPS then immediately my Class A amp the internal fuses blew in the amp, that's six fuses. However, I have not had this problem before or since.
    Glad to found a good upgrade, take care of that fuse that is designed to burn (blow)
    Crikey...thats bad!
    Glad its not happened again.
    What might have been the cause of that, isn't the BPS regulated for inrush current?
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    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
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  6. #16
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    Love to indulge you Alan, but the Transporters my only digital source and wouldn't want anything to go ka-ka!
    I would expect a difference though?
    All but my power amp is hard wired from the Balanced mains and I know how true "the best fuse is no fuse" is.
    (All equipment internally fused and protected of course.)

    Sorry mate!


    Quote Originally Posted by Firebottle View Post
    Gaz, would you indulge me?

    As you are technical and know what you are doing I propose a little experiment.
    Would you care to remove the fuse, solder a thick length of copper wire to the outside of the fuse clips and see if there is any difference to the sound.

    Before anyone jumps on me to say this is risky, yes I know, but for the short time this will take the risk is minimal.
    The pcb tracks only look to be rated at about 2A anyway

    Over to you .....

    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieGong View Post
    Might be snake oil to some but I couldnt find a bad review http://highend-electronics.com/produ...roduct-reviews
    Yup,
    Always this 63 page Thread too, folk like 'em.
    https://forum.audiogon.com/discussio...istic-red-fuse
    Last edited by Gazjam; 12-01-2017 at 10:54.
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    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Default Interesting article.............

    https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/news/stud...ut-energy-loss

    The above article might shed a little light...........

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    Do you need better mains cables to see the benefit?
    I am thinking that if I were to try one, the pre amp would be the place I would think it would have the most benefit.

    Where did you get the fuse from, as the 30 day return would be most useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Do you need better mains cables to see the benefit?
    I am thinking that if I were to try one, the pre amp would be the place I would think it would have the most benefit.

    Where did you get the fuse from, as the 30 day return would be most useful.
    Not sure to be honest, best way is to listen to one in your system probably.

    Got mine here:
    http://www.analogueseduction.net/cat...x5mm-fuse.html

    Ordering another for my Preamp myself later today.

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