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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    Interesting, my guess would be that a tuner is totally reliant on its antenna, I would have thought the better that is, then the better the tuner gets,
    and that has been my experience.
    Where I get good reception this is true but my house is in a very awkward spot for reception and depending on the weather different antenna picking up the signal from different transmitters work better. In Foggy or stormy weather when the reception can get pretty dire a little bit of wire in doors is best.

    The most use I get out of FM tuners these days is as clocks ! In my bedroom I use a Teac T-H500, wouldnt want to listen to it I have a Sony ST-SB920 QS which is my preferred tuner for what little I do listen to the radio these days, its great for radio 3 in the night and has terminals for two antennas. The clock in my living room is a Sony ST-SE520, I do use a Sony AV Receiver STR-DB795 QS for most of my radio listening but this is normally while cooking or washing, sometimes it wont get a stereo signal and I have to faff about retuning it and changing antennas over or I dont bother and put a CD on instead. Soundwise I have a Rotel and a Denon which I prefer but the Sonys work so much better with the varying reception, ST-SB920 QS and STR-DB795 QS do both sound great anyway.

    Amazes me that FM is still going, glad it is as I wouldnt know what time it is otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Dependant Resistor View Post
    Interesting, my guess would be that a tuner is totally reliant on its antenna, I would have thought the better that is, then the better the tuner gets,
    and that has been my experience.
    It hasn't been mine. If the tuner reads max signal no expensive antenna improves it. It has enough signal.

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    That is assuming the signal strength meter is telling the truth and a lot of them don't because people want to see max quieting all the time as it is re-assuring. Like having amps where the output is at full with the volume knob at 11 o'clock.
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    A lot of trouble can be caused by multipath signals. You get a ghost signal entering the tuner just after the main one and causes distortion. One of the hazards of this type of thing and why a good high attenna is helpful as its less likely to catch the multipath strays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    A lot of trouble can be caused by multipath signals. You get a ghost signal entering the tuner just after the main one and causes distortion. One of the hazards of this type of thing and why a good high attenna is helpful as its less likely to catch the multipath strays.
    Then again if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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    Which magazine says government switching FM signal off in 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    A lot of trouble can be caused by multipath signals. You get a ghost signal entering the tuner just after the main one and causes distortion. One of the hazards of this type of thing and why a good high attenna is helpful as its less likely to catch the multipath strays.
    Spot on. Which is why you need a good and highly directional AERIAL (not antenna... and it's valves not tubes... we're not quite the 51st state yet!). The more elements the aerial has the greater the directivity and signal strength.
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    I've had a few. The Audiolab 8000 sounded very good but rather quickly needed work doing on it. Around the same time I found a Tag Mclaren T32 with DAB module. It doesn't sound bad on DAB, though it needed a proper external aerial to work here in the rural Welsh Marches, but its FM peformance is great and I still think it's the best source I've got. It does rather shew up when the compressors cut in, though. A big Ron Smith Galaxie pointed at Sutton Coldfield over 50 miles away gives it the cleanest signal, even though it needs amplifying, better than the more local but lower powered Ridge Hill between Hereford and Ross-on-Wye/Gloucester.

    If I were starting out again, though, I don't think I'd bother. Satellite TV (AtlanticBird 3 5°W / Astra 19.2°E) gives me all the French and German (classical) radio stations I could want in good sound quality, and then there's the internet ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    That is assuming the signal strength meter is telling the truth and a lot of them don't because people want to see max quieting all the time as it is re-assuring. Like having amps where the output is at full with the volume knob at 11 o'clock.
    Yep.... it's surprisingly common to see tuners in which when full signal is shown on the meter you actually need 10 X more for best results!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    Spot on. Which is why you need a good and highly directional AERIAL (not antenna... and it's valves not tubes... we're not quite the 51st state yet!). The more elements the aerial has the greater the directivity and signal strength.
    Twas my meaning. Aerial similar to tv ?. Suppose an attenna is a dipole really?
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