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    Quote Originally Posted by User211 View Post
    I've tried Zilplex and Mooks. Both are useless.
    I have no direct experience of either.
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    It's not a piece of Hi-Fi equipment and there's no way it can add 'fidelity'!
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    It's not a piece of Hi-Fi equipment and there's no way it can add 'fidelity'!
    I would think all it can do is react with/agin the soundwaves from the speakers. either adding to or transforming soundwaves. Fair chance its audible, although I am thinking its unlikely to be in a good way on paper. Might sound enough different to give a pleasant effect though to some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    I would think all it can do is react with/agin the soundwaves from the speakers. either adding to or transforming soundwaves. Fair chance its audible, although I am thinking its unlikely to be in a good way on paper. Might sound enough different to give a pleasant effect though to some.
    You need to read the review.

    The music possessed a more authentic quality in terms of touch, tone and timbre and as a result sounded less electrical and thus less fatiguing. Image density also seemed to gain some weight, giving instruments more decay and "hang time" — the very ingredients that can fool one into believing real instruments are in the room. Harmonic integrity and truth of timbre were phrases that kept coming to mind

    This is what these things always do. But there's no cheap way to get this same effect, of course. Can't get them for a tenner from Maplin. Always from these specialist blokes with weird horn and valve systems who have been working on it in a shed for 'years'. Never any explanation for how it works, even though this arcane knowledge might undermine the Standard Model and provide a major breakthrough in our understanding of Physics. None of that 'Nobel Prize' crap for these chaps; much better to keep the secret to yourself so that you can flog a dozen a year to super-wealthy hi-fi enthusiasts who have run out of things to spend money on.

    Sorry, Neil, we have to disagree on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    You need to read the review.

    The music possessed a more authentic quality in terms of touch, tone and timbre and as a result sounded less electrical and thus less fatiguing. Image density also seemed to gain some weight, giving instruments more decay and "hang time" — the very ingredients that can fool one into believing real instruments are in the room. Harmonic integrity and truth of timbre were phrases that kept coming to mind

    This is what these things always do. But there's no cheap way to get this same effect, of course. Can't get them for a tenner from Maplin. Always from these specialist blokes with weird horn and valve systems who have been working on it in a shed for 'years'. Never any explanation for how it works, even though this arcane knowledge might undermine the Standard Model and provide a major breakthrough in our understanding of Physics. None of that 'Nobel Prize' crap for these chaps; much better to keep the secret to yourself so that you can flog a dozen a year to super-wealthy hi-fi enthusiasts who have run out of things to spend money on.

    Sorry, Neil, we have to disagree on this one.
    That's fine Martin.

    I think it important folks understand where I am coming from. I am not defending this product. I can't, I haven't heard or tried it in my room, but I won't decry it either, or piss take it because it just might make a difference to the room acoustics and room acoustics are often the overlooked element in folks systems.

    Helmholtz resonators are tubes, they effect room acoustics, simple pipes, so why can't other items equally effect rooms acoustics ? I was very sceptical that relatively small metal bowls could effect the sound of a room, and yet they did. I know what I heard. I can't explain it.

    My comments were based purely on addressing a sadly familiar pattern of posting from certain quarters and in general, piss taking and offering comments about performance or lack there of, value for money etc based on zero direct experience. How can one talk with any degree of credibility when one has not heard a thing ? One can't simple as that.

    I don't care what the item is, you can't and that is it. Go try a thing and offer an opinion. I will then take it on board. Offer a derisory piss taking opinion based on no experience and I will disregard it. Your words will be like a 'a loud gong or a clashing cymbal' all noise, but without value.
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