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  1. #31
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    Sure it will look a lot better for it. No keen on these boxes that not only show every touch but its difficult to remove them too. Wood cheeks are great, ive few things with them
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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  2. #32
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    The intention is for it to mimic the Vida, only a little bigger. It's strange how I feel about it - there's something 'unbelievable' about it - I can't explain it. If I was in the UK is def bring it to some bake-offs for others to experience.


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    Technics SP10 mk2
    Jan Allaerts MC 1 Boron mk1 cart
    Miyajima Shilabe cart
    Hashimoto HM-X SUT
    Siggwan (gimballed not unipivot) Cocobola 12"
    Aurorasound Vida LCR Phonostage
    The Truth linestage
    Dave Slagle Autoformer Volume Controller
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  3. #33
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    Update. After a long weekend of spinning vinyl of all genres I still cannot form a concrete opinion. Yes it has stripped away all veils, yes the detail is glorious - but I think I've lost a little musicality (colouration?) and there's a slight hardness in the mid that wasn't there before.

    Now, as there isn't a single component in the signal path I have to assume that by lifting the veils a slight colouration has been highlighted somewhere else in the chain. To confuse the matter more im also having to use a 1m Cardas Neutral Reference from Vida to Truth as my Cardas Golden Presence is too short (will be up for sale shortly) at 0.5m. So the new cable might be adding to the sight hardness.

    Of course it might also be highlighting a slight loading issues or even an SRA issue - it's that forensic.

    It's bizarre that something sonically 'invisible' has changed the character of my system. scratch

    In perpetual pursuit.
    Technics SP10 mk2
    Jan Allaerts MC 1 Boron mk1 cart
    Miyajima Shilabe cart
    Hashimoto HM-X SUT
    Siggwan (gimballed not unipivot) Cocobola 12"
    Aurorasound Vida LCR Phonostage
    The Truth linestage
    Dave Slagle Autoformer Volume Controller
    Cary 805c SET amps
    Audio Note ANe-SPX speakers
    Townshend Isolda speaker cables
    Cardas Golden Presence interconnects

  4. #34
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    Have you tried testing with digital, see if the same result happens?

    Also what does this thing cost? I have searched all over for a price, no-one seems to mention it so I am guessing it is a lot.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farflungstar View Post
    Update. After a long weekend of spinning vinyl of all genres I still cannot form a concrete opinion. Yes it has stripped away all veils, yes the detail is glorious - but I think I've lost a little musicality (colouration?) and there's a slight hardness in the mid that wasn't there before.

    Now, as there isn't a single component in the signal path I have to assume that by lifting the veils a slight colouration has been highlighted somewhere else in the chain. To confuse the matter more im also having to use a 1m Cardas Neutral Reference from Vida to Truth as my Cardas Golden Presence is too short (will be up for sale shortly) at 0.5m. So the new cable might be adding to the sight hardness.

    Of course it might also be highlighting a slight loading issues or even an SRA issue - it's that forensic.

    It's bizarre that something sonically 'invisible' has changed the character of my system. scratch

    In perpetual pursuit.
    Now youve got used to changes, it will affect how you hear things i guess.. you,ll have to develop a new way of appreciating music. Totally sonically clean
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  6. #36
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    There shouldn't be any hardness, though. Hardness in the sound is distortion that shouldn't be there.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Have you tried testing with digital, see if the same result happens?

    Also what does this thing cost? I have searched all over for a price, no-one seems to mention it so I am guessing it is a lot.
    It says $975 here
    http://www.thehornshoppe.com/the_truth_pre_amp.html

    To be honest, those specs seem a bit odd. 60MHz bandwidth? But there's no mention of voltage gain, max voltage swing, THD etc.
    As I mentioned earlier, I would love to see inside this thing.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    It says $975 here
    http://www.thehornshoppe.com/the_truth_pre_amp.html

    To be honest, those specs seem a bit odd. 60MHz bandwidth? But there's no mention of voltage gain, max voltage swing, THD etc.
    As I mentioned earlier, I would love to see inside this thing.
    Cheer. Read all that before and missed it. So with shipping and customs about a grand sterling, maybe a bit less. Not an unacceptable price, a bit much for me to take a punt on unheard, though.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    There shouldn't be any hardness, though. Hardness in the sound is distortion that shouldn't be there.
    I agree. And as for "stripping away veils", surely the only veils that it could strip away are the ones that were imposed by the previous linestage. It can't strip away veils from elsewhere in the system.

  10. #40
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    True, but if it is more transparent it could be showing up a problem that was previously masked, as Adrian suggested.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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