Waiting for the Truth

[Pieoftheday]

There is no Truth, engineers piss about with recordings,even live stuff is messed about with, no recorded stuff is the Truth, ppprrf,,,.

[anubisgrau]

ah, i was wondering for weeks what is the truth since i noticed it in adrian's signature quite some time ago

totally familiar with his findings - i had the same experience first time when i brought a myth audio LDR thing into my system, some 5 years ago

at the that time i had MFA TVC - it killed it on accounts of transparency and detail to my total disbelief - plus it sounded punchier and more dynamic

i sold MFA TVC in no time

by the time i started noticing hardness i didn't hear before. could be it was my system but it made me wondering how it would sound if it would have a good tube buffers instead of JFETs it had

i could never get the designer to custom make one for me

eventually i sold it in anticipation of an upgraded version and got slagle AVC as a stop gap

i'm still with it. the upgraded version has never showed up and i kinda liked what slagle thing do. i've heard better preamps and even more detailed TVCs but it's just right for what it costs.

the above myth LDR would be just fckn phenomenal with a DHT buffer or similar around 45 or 4P1L but who's gonna built it? i could only imagine what musicality and transparency such a device could have.


as for the salvatore's site, you really need to be very pretentious to run it like that. there's hundred devices out there he hasn't heard that would end selected. it is better not to be over excited.

as for slagle AVCs, i owned 3 and heard 2 more in my life. all 5 sounded different, depending on the implementation. the best is 1 input 1 output, this is the winner. the worst was the most complicated bent audio tap-x, especially through buffers (shocking bad!).

last but not least, just wondering how no one notices bloody obvious - photo cells ARE acting as resistors in this device, you can call it what you like but this is a buffered, resistive volume control. not that a definition matters so much but let's call it straight.

[eabeemer]

I stumbled accidently on this thread and want to share my story about the Truth!

As a frequent visitor of Audiocircle I read much about the Tortuga LDR passive preamp and was seriously considering buying it.
Then someone mentioned about the Truth preamp and I look further into it. Read also the Salvatore’s review and took the plunge and ordered it.

December last year I was the very happy owner of this very remarkable preamp. I could hear the potential but there was a problem with this preamp, so I thought. And as mentioned what a good guy Ed Schilling is, he ask me to return it to him. He couldn’t find any faults but as promised he made me a brand new one. Ed also strongly recommended me to look into my fancy cables and swap these with “common” cables.
I had a pair Sommer Albedo cable lying around and used it between the dac and the Thruth.
Wow what a day and night difference it made. I’m in this hobby for about 35 years and for the first time I heard such a device that is not excelling in some areas but it is giving the whole package and makes you hear music like it was meant to be.

Adrian has mentioned his experiences with the Truth in several posts and this mirrors exactly what I have been hearing.

I have told Ed that the Truth is going nowhere and I don’t think I will ever part of it.

This is not the first time I bought a device without hearing it. The Tram MK2 preamp of Thorsten Loesch I bought also based on experiences of owners/users and was very happy with it. But it looks like this Tram mk2 will need another home.


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TT: Technics SL1000 with Dynavector Dv505 arm and Acutex m312str, Lenco L75 in heavy Birch plinth with a Mission arm and Acutex 315str lpm, ; digital: Denon dvd3310, Altmann BYOB Dac from Asus ROG GL752VW and Rednet 3, Tube MM phonopre
Amplification: Preamps: The Truth and Tram mk2 DHT; poweramps: Sphinx project 14 and 16, Wolcott Presence mono's and modified Conrad Johnson MV75
Loudspeakers: Apogee Full Range (fully restored), Scintilla, Diva
Cables/stands: Cardas golden reference and cross ic's, KCI silkworms ic's, Klotz MC5000, Sommer Albedo, Yannis Tome 423.5 phonocable with eichmann pure harmony and Furutech CF plugs, Audioquest Diamond Ethernet cable, Siltech power cables, MIT ic's, Reality speakercables, Isotek Orion and Titan mains conditioners

[farflungstar]

Thanks for sharing! Out of curiosity what was the original problem?

[eabeemer]

There was a cracking/thumping sound when turning up the volume. But when I connected to another input in the Truth this cracking/thumping sound was gone but came the next day back.
It seems to be a cable matching problem. According to Ed I was the only one having this problem.

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TT: Technics SL1000 with Dynavector Dv505 arm and Acutex m312str, Lenco L75 in heavy Birch plinth with a Mission arm and Acutex 315str lpm, ; digital: Denon dvd3310, Altmann BYOB Dac from Asus ROG GL752VW and Rednet 3, Tube MM phonopre
Amplification: Preamps: The Truth and Tram mk2 DHT; poweramps: Sphinx project 14 and 16, Wolcott Presence mono's and modified Conrad Johnson MV75
Loudspeakers: Apogee Full Range (fully restored), Scintilla, Diva
Cables/stands: Cardas golden reference and cross ic's, KCI silkworms ic's, Klotz MC5000, Sommer Albedo, Yannis Tome 423.5 phonocable with eichmann pure harmony and Furutech CF plugs, Audioquest Diamond Ethernet cable, Siltech power cables, MIT ic's, Reality speakercables, Isotek Orion and Titan mains conditioners

[farflungstar]

It's weird, as it's supposed to be impervious to driving long cables, so weird that it has a problem with cable types. I have a slightly similar problem when I turn the volume up almost to the limit I get a buzzing - Ed says it's the led overloading the photocell and that it probably shifted in transit (not surprising considering the 3 transatlantic flights it took) and that I need to sightly tilt the led a little. Im gonna do it in the next week when I have time as it's not really an issue.

The transparency is astonishing on it - the different character of a cable or SRA changes are so obvious. I'm currently juggling with interconnects...
Adey

[RothwellAudio]

last but not least, just wondering how no one notices bloody obvious - photo cells ARE acting as resistors in this device, you can call it what you like but this is a buffered, resistive volume control. not that a definition matters so much but let's call it straight.

What makes you think no one noticed? As you say, it's bloody obvious.

[Ali Tait]

ah, i was wondering for weeks what is the truth since i noticed it in adrian's signature quite some time ago

totally familiar with his findings - i had the same experience first time when i brought a myth audio LDR thing into my system, some 5 years ago

at the that time i had MFA TVC - it killed it on accounts of transparency and detail to my total disbelief - plus it sounded punchier and more dynamic

i sold MFA TVC in no time

by the time i started noticing hardness i didn't hear before. could be it was my system but it made me wondering how it would sound if it would have a good tube buffers instead of JFETs it had

i could never get the designer to custom make one for me

eventually i sold it in anticipation of an upgraded version and got slagle AVC as a stop gap

i'm still with it. the upgraded version has never showed up and i kinda liked what slagle thing do. i've heard better preamps and even more detailed TVCs but it's just right for what it costs.

the above myth LDR would be just fckn phenomenal with a DHT buffer or similar around 45 or 4P1L but who's gonna built it? i could only imagine what musicality and transparency such a device could have.


as for the salvatore's site, you really need to be very pretentious to run it like that. there's hundred devices out there he hasn't heard that would end selected. it is better not to be over excited.

as for slagle AVCs, i owned 3 and heard 2 more in my life. all 5 sounded different, depending on the implementation. the best is 1 input 1 output, this is the winner. the worst was the most complicated bent audio tap-x, especially through buffers (shocking bad!).

last but not least, just wondering how no one notices bloody obvious - photo cells ARE acting as resistors in this device, you can call it what you like but this is a buffered, resistive volume control. not that a definition matters so much but let's call it straight.

The problem with LDR's is that they are not linear and measure as so.

[RothwellAudio]

The problem with LDR's is that they are not linear and measure as so.

Yes, I agree. The conventional potentiometer volume control is not a perfect device but going over the LDRs and lights seems to me a bizzare way to address them.

[eabeemer]

Hi Adrian, like to see the new front and buttons on the Truth. Pictures?