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Thread: Album Club, December 2016: Mogwai - 'Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will'

  1. #11
    Join Date: May 2015

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    Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment folks. Not for everyone this one, but that seems the trend with The Album Club, no one record is universally liked. I agree with Rich's comment regarding the production. Always thought it sounded a bit 'harsh' in places.

    As Al mentioned, a bit of a poor turn out on this one. I guess December is a busy time for many! But it's not January yet so get yer Hi Fi on and cranked up and get the votes into double figures!

    Regards to all

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  2. #12
    Join Date: Jan 2009

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    I liked it - nice dense, fuzzy distorted sound, with undecipherable lyrics, but with a nice, sluggish heavy beat. Just the sort of hypnotic music I can relax to.

    8/10 from me
    Have you listened to this month's choice in the Album Club?

    Barry

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    Nah, couldn't get into it, nothing to get my attention.
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  4. #14
    Join Date: Jan 2012

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    Good choice - I really like their LP Atomic (from earlier this year I think), but had not listened to much else from them. After listening to this one I will go and explore more.

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    Join Date: Apr 2009

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    Squeezed in right at the end of the month. What the hell happened to December?
    Great tunes. Mogwai are masters of what they do. Melodic, post-apocalyptic rock.
    If only it had been recorded live in the studio with the band all playing together in one room onto tape with a recording engineer worth his beans - someone like Steve Albini perhaps. Give it the rawness and dynamic to make it exciting and involving.
    As it is, it has all the hallmarks of 'flattened by Pro-Tools' about it. I had to keep bringing my attention back to it as it just sounds BOORING and lifeless. A real shame as given a good recording and mastering it could have been one of their finest albums. I've heard a couple of these songs live so I know how they can sound, so it's the recording that lets the side down.
    For that I can only give it a 7.
    Rich

  6. #16
    Join Date: Sep 2012

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    As a former shoegazer I quite enjoyed this, but a few more vocals wouldn't go amiss ;-)

    I think a big part of the hardness and flatness that folk are hearing is overmastering. I've not thrown a meter on it myself yet but http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/119569 suggests pretty limited dynamic range, there's a tendency for the drums to suck up and spit the brassware over the top when it all gets going.

    I like the mixing, there's a lot of nice eq work, instruments are well defined spectrally but I'm not sure I get what the 'presentation' is meant to be, there's a lot of space but it's not clear 'where' we're meant to be (room, cathedral, stage, spaceship...)

    I can imagine it being quite a good thing to have on cans in the office.

    7/10

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