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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by diviy View Post
    1. Install Wine.app and WineBottler.app
    2. Open Wine.app and update it
    3. When Wine.app is is updated, a MenuBar icon should be installed in the upper right corner of your screen (icon surrounded by red in the screenshot below)
    4. Click on the Wine.app MenuBar icon and click on Winetricks
    5. Wait for it to do its thing
    6. Download Foobar2000 onto your Mac
    7. Click on the Wine.app MenuBar icon again and click on Control Panel
    8. Double-click on Add/Remove Programs and press Install
    9. Search the Z: drive for the Foobar2000 installation .exe file (make sure you search for Program files of .exe extensions instead of the default Installation Programs)
    10. Run through the Foobar2000 installation process
    11. Go to Finder.app and navigate to where the Wine.app files are stored on your hard drive (in my case it's under Mac OS X/Users/Michael/Wine Files)
    12. Go through the folders: drive_c/Program Files/foobar2000 and create an alias of foobar2000.exe to create a shortcut to the program
    13. Place the foobar2000.exe.alias shortcut anywhere on your hard drive for convenience (I put mine in the Applications folder)
    14. Double-click on the alias to open the foobar2000 app!

    I am just asking for advice between a laptop running windows or a macbook pro
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    All I was doing was showing it can be done Chris no offence made I am just dipping my toe into streaming and I have the choice of two laptops with different os
    I would like to know would the mac be better or my windows machine be better .
    The reason is I am due to have two major spinal operation so that will be five in total and I will be laid up for a long time to recover so bending to play a lp will be out so trying to sort out a half tidy streaming system as there is only so much tv I can take I listen to music every single day .
    I have been medically retiered since 2010 and have gone through hell with my back so I hope I have not offended you.

    Gerry

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    Hi Gerald,

    Have some experience in computer based audio...ask around.
    My advice is to stick to Windows based playback.

    Apple isnt terrible, but Microsoft do it better.
    First step (quality wise, as Chris says) into computer file based audio is Foobar from a windows laptop...(i.e, Not Wine) and next step is to tweak the settings and then you'll notice a big improvement!!

    It can get a lot better from there too, just depends how deep into the rabbithole you want to go into!
    Enjoy the improvements one step at a time I say though!

    Happy to help out with any questions you may have.

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    No offence taken.
    Getting Windows programmes to work on Mac machines is something I can't play with (Mac free zone here), and lord knows what goes on driver wise in such a setup.

    My experience is with Windows machines, and they're generally acknowledged to have things other than audio playback prioritised.
    As Foobar2000 is written for a Windows environment you're going to get wider support if it's installed on a Windows machine - Foobar2000 doesn't seem to be fussy about the Windows OS it's playing with, so XP and onwards should play nice to the same set of rules (with XP you can forget the WASAPI stuff - that was for Vista and onwards).
    Installing the ASIO and WASAPI driver plugins should get you on the path to prioritising audio playback with Foobar. What you would need to do is point your audio playback at the interfacing device, so in playback settings you'd pick the ASIO or WASAPI option, and that in turn would give it (audio playback) very high priority in the general scheme of things.

    You also have the ability to use a smartphone with Foobar app to remotely control your media player, but that's a separate thing altogether.
    Chris



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    Hi Gaz,

    You have a PM, mate!

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    Replied!
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

  7. #27
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    As a person who regularly flips between Win & Mac machines.

    I'd say that perhaps for a start you might want to settle with either :

    Win - Foobar (KS/Wasapi/Asio depending on your pref)
    Mac - iTunes + Bitperfect

    Yes, there are loads of other paid and free players out there and I've probably been using/trying almost all available apps that I could get my hands on.

    J River, Audirvana, Decibel, Fidelia, Vox etc are very good at what they are doing.
    But after a while, once things have settled and I got used to each of their signature sound - to me ears, them apps apparently did not really sound that different from iTunes or Foobar when reverted.
    -abe-

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